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It's not a secret, the Genolution implants will go up in price. I am buying them, but need additional funds to buy more. This is my business plan.

Loan Amount: 1 Billion Isk
Repayment: 3 Months
Interest Repayment: At the conclusion (Otherwise I would need to hold money back since there is no liquid isk in my plan)

If you are willing to back me with no collateral, the interest rate will be 5% per month.

If you wish to have collateral, I can put up some of the current stock I have in Genolution Implants. Please state your terms and I will agree or not. Just FYI, I will not accept you saying you want 20 of them against a 1 Billion isk loan with a 4% interest rate, I'm not stupid.

I will post montly to let you know everything is alive and well.

This is my first request, I look forward to continued business in the future.

If the price stays the same as current, I will pay back the 5%(Per Month) and the principal. I have about 2 Billion isk of my own in this effort, so the additional funds are not a problem.

It's a loan, what I use it for is my fault not yours.

So, if you're right about the price increase, we trust a complete stranger with 1 billion to buy the implants to get 15.8% (off the top of my head) interest if you decide to repay. OR, we could buy them ourselves and take all the profit...Tricky one.

Effort. No thanks.

Private loans between trusted people are usually 10-20% a month minimum. Trusting some nobody with isk for 5%? laughable.

3 month for 15%- which is 150m isk

even if not a scam, seems a waste of time. there is better ways to make 150m isk in 2 days, why wait 3 months

At 100% collateral, I'll fund the whole thing.

Further, I'll offer you the option to swap the collateral back for my holding the implants for the 3-month duration.

Also, if you elect to exercise the above option I'll give you an escape clause, where if you decide to keep my investment capital (excluding interest) and leave me at the altar with the implants, you're free to do so with no damage to your reputation. This shifts the risk of the implants losing value from you to me.

This offer is valid for 24 hours.

Esan, what valuation would I get for existing stock if I am using it as collateral?
Are you willing to go with current market price?
Also, are you willing to do this through a third party (they hold the stock)?

That's why I plan on having the Collateral with a third party. So you can't run off with it unless I don't pay.

What stops anyone who asks for a Loan from walking off with the money and letting you keep the collateral? That's the whole point of collateral. It gives you less risk because it will be worth at least some part of the Loan. Risk vs Reward is how the whole investing thing works, not just for eve, but for the ENTIRE WORLD.

Do you people even invest at all? It seems to me like you do not understand how this whole process works.

On the contrary people understand how this works all too well.

If you do want a third party then I will offer my services with the following terms:

1) I will hold 25 Genolution implants (CA-1/2) against a loan of 1B. This represents a valuation of 40m per unit.
2) Items must be in a station that can be reached via contiguous high-sec from Jita.
3) I will receive a payment of 50M for this service.
4) A default will occur if an interest payment or the return of capital is missed by more than 3 days (72 hours)
5) Items held will be returned in the same station and condition upon public confirmation of receipt of capital and final interest from the investors.
6) In the event of a dispute I will require perform an API check on the Investee (Sleekman) to establish if such payments have been made.
7) In the event of a default I will sell the items and return the proceeds (up to the level of the capital invested). Any excess will be kept by myself as remuneration for selling and closing things down.


It will be up to you to agree the interest rate with your investors as I couldn't give a stuff.