Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello folks,

Fairly recently we're had the opportunity to bribe concord with tags and isk to look the other way with regards to security status.

Surely we should be able to bribe the empires to get faction standing back to zero? Having it go above zero would be very overpowered. But bribing them into neutrality would be sufficient.

Thanks,

Ef.

Thanks for your comments, I would certainly agree that eve should be a game of consequences, but I feel that it would be appropriate to have some sort of mechanism for faction standing resetting. A costly one in my opinion.

Most faction corps have stations in the other empires. Spam them in space you aren't shoot on site with to not get shoot on site standing.

Then you can bribe them at the data centres they run buying tags.


Depending on faction you made mad at you, SOE is also an option. I had gallente really not like me once. SOE missions (unless changed) give a somewhat decent splash faction boost to gallente and iirc just a bit to minmatar. I hit SOE agents not in gallente space until I was cleared for their space.

You know you can say no to missions (once per 4 h), so don´t do the missions which lower you standing or fly for both sides missions.

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I'm in agreement that repairing terrible standings to a workable point is an overly difficult and time consuming tax, for little value. To that end, exchanging tags to repair it up to NO HIGHER THAN 0, or even -1, or allow us to run missions for that faction with increased standing gain, but no isk/lp payout, up to 0, would be of great benefit.

Of course allowing players to buy their way up above 0 standing would be a bad thing, but I don't see the harm in allowing players to bribe it back up to a beginner level, even if the price is fairly steep.

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This is really something so huge that I don't quite understand why CCP doesn't address in some way. Considering how commonplace it is for missioners to reject all empire faction missions, there must be a pretty high incidence of that content simply being skipped, and doing nothing else than to create an obstacle for mission runners. Perhaps the incidence of anti-empire faction missions needs to be cranked up in highsec, and removed from lowsec, to incentivize mission running in null. Perhaps a less obtrusive option like paying to repair your standing up to a certain point is better.

Ah so now you are saying that only those players that have a few bil laying around they have no use for should be able to take advantage of this? Yet another reason why this is a bad idea, only those with massive amounts of ISK can use it.

Others have brought up the new player that because of a lack of understanding of the game has allowed their standings to get to bad for one or more of the empires. As one who spends most of my game time with new players I can see the value in a one time only option to use a pay for standings to correct this common new player error.

I know there is a mechanic in the game that allows for those with negative standing to "buy" it back up, but since we are talking about changing that mechanic then we need to look at how this affects players all across the entire spectrum and not just those with negative standings. If we are going to change this and allow for you folks with negative standing to "buy" your way back to 0 then I expect to be able to "buy" my way to the higher plus side standings that my play style requires.

That doesn't make making isk doing missions more viable or make it easier to avoid standings lowing missions.

Remove tags from the LP store.
This will result in all those faction modules that currently needing tags seeing more use and getting blown up.
Replace use of those tags to bring you back up to -1.5 or so faction standing.

This gets you past the 'shoot on site' level. But not to the 'can instantly run lvl 4's as long as corp standing is good enough' level
Making for some lasting impact without crippling.

And should keep a market for the tags intact.

Well that's kinda the point isn't it. If you were to do something like this it would need to be priced high enough that, in general, players would only be able to do it for few enough corps as not to make standings completely redundant and that tags/whatever are used would be valuable enough to farm.

New players aren't particularly the focus for any system like this I'd have thought. To get down to such horrible levels is going to require decent amounts of L4s - if that is considered a problem the way to flag this for them would be via mission text/NPE, not an easily affordable instafix.