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WHAT HAPPENED? *Exactly*

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Thayden Reid Nordic
Know-Nothings
Deepwater Hooligans
#1 - 2014-10-18 21:14:07 UTC
If this has been asked before I apologize in advance.

What the HELL happened back in the day with Capitals in High Sec?

Anytime I ask a vet all I get is "Oh man **** hit the fan" and that's all. SO ok, what was the **** that hit the fan? Especially with the debate over caps in high sec raging away, I would LOVE to know some Eve history on the subject. Thanks guys.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2014-10-18 21:14:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Oh man, the **** hit the fan.

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Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2014-10-18 21:15:43 UTC
Dem fans got all clogged up with ****.

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KnowUsByTheDead
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#4 - 2014-10-18 21:19:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Flidais Asagiri
Mag's wrote:
Oh man, the **** hit the fan.


This about sums it up.

The fecal matter splashed the blades.

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Thayden Reid Nordic
Know-Nothings
Deepwater Hooligans
#5 - 2014-10-18 21:25:11 UTC
God damn it...
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-10-18 21:28:51 UTC
Thayden Reid Nordic wrote:
God damn it...

This may or may not have been a contributing factor.

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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#7 - 2014-10-18 21:32:14 UTC
Something about really unbalanced wars.

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Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#8 - 2014-10-18 21:33:12 UTC
Thayden Reid Nordic wrote:
If this has been asked before I apologize in advance.

What the HELL happened back in the day with Capitals in High Sec?

Anytime I ask a vet all I get is "Oh man **** hit the fan" and that's all. SO ok, what was the **** that hit the fan? Especially with the debate over caps in high sec raging away, I would LOVE to know some Eve history on the subject. Thanks guys.



I believe this what occurred, when folks were able to use capitals they would run tons of lvl 5 missions or 4's leaping their grinds in ranks and isk way faster than the newbs in the newbie zone.

then the cap pilots got mad and decided to attack newbies..

leaving master chribba all alone to mine veldspar in his dreadnaught becoming a living statue of what could have been..

i'll admit it.. newbs in high sec make tasty treats for a doomsday weapon.. just saying

keep on flyin playa..
Regnag Leppod
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-18 21:35:37 UTC
Pretty simple really. People using capitals were making bazillion isk per second, while the poor nullsec alliances had to scrape by on billions of isk per day. So they demanded what they always demand of CCP: Nerf high-sec.
flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-10-18 21:59:37 UTC
****+fan =IWIN button ?


Care/discuss

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Thayden Reid Nordic
Know-Nothings
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2014-10-18 22:03:15 UTC
Instead of Nerfing High Sec, why not Buff Null? Idk how much money making has changed in the years since, but the idea of taking something away from one group becuz another is pissed about it, rather than making the two comparable, or more balanced I should say, seems a bit pre-school.
Hicksimus
Torgue
#12 - 2014-10-18 22:04:57 UTC
I literally teabagged CCP in mine. This lead to them raging.....big red button.....delete boot.ini.....no more caps in highsec.

Or at least that's how I remember it. I dunno about you guys but I can still use CAPS in highsec just fine.

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Thayden Reid Nordic
Know-Nothings
Deepwater Hooligans
#13 - 2014-10-18 22:11:23 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Hicksimus wrote:
. I dunno about you guys but I can still use CAPS in highsec just fine.


HA I get it



Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.
flakeys
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-18 22:15:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Thayden Reid Nordic wrote:
Hicksimus wrote:
. I dunno about you guys but I can still use CAPS in highsec just fine.


HA I get it


Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.



No one else can ttouch us , while we're in this place .


Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.

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Polymer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-10-18 22:54:12 UTC
Thayden Reid Nordic wrote:
If this has been asked before I apologize in advance.

What the HELL happened back in the day with Capitals in High Sec?

Anytime I ask a vet all I get is "Oh man **** hit the fan" and that's all. SO ok, what was the **** that hit the fan? Especially with the debate over caps in high sec raging away, I would LOVE to know some Eve history on the subject. Thanks guys.


Back in the day you could build capitals in highsec because of "coding issues." So many different types of capitals were built, the problem started when the capitals could tank concord, generally you could do it with logi's because the aggro didn't expand past the initial person. Which normally ended with the server crashing.

They ended up buffing concord and doing lock timing tweeks.

I don't exactly remember when they changed their minds about capitals in highsec, but I do remember people hiding the fact they had them. I believe there was some sort of hunt for who used them and where. CCP was "nice" enough to move the capitals free of charge to the nearest lowsec system.

Then they started getting pretty mad at the people selling them and made the sales banned on the forums. I really don't know where they as for rules today. But I know Chribba was given special permission to use his titan as a Veldatar in highsec.

The general rule that's been around for awhile is if you have one in highsec it cannot be used in any fashion that can affect anyone's gameplay in any way.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#16 - 2014-10-19 00:55:17 UTC
Man, reading this topic is making me feel like I play EvE in some alternate universe. Where is EvE history when you need it?

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-10-19 01:01:16 UTC
The fire nation attacked!

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Heretic Army
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#18 - 2014-10-19 01:11:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Tuggles
Thayden Reid Nordic wrote:
Instead of Nerfing High Sec, why not Buff Null? Idk how much money making has changed in the years since, but the idea of taking something away from one group becuz another is pissed about it, rather than making the two comparable, or more balanced I should say, seems a bit pre-school.



Nullsec has been buffed over, and over, and over, and over. So much so that they basically **** isk at every corner with almost no risk of loss. This is how you have nullsec power blocks fielding 30-40 titans + thousands of capitals in single fights. They make more isk than Jesus makes wine.
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#19 - 2014-10-19 01:37:01 UTC
Mister Tuggles wrote:
Thayden Reid Nordic wrote:
Instead of Nerfing High Sec, why not Buff Null? Idk how much money making has changed in the years since, but the idea of taking something away from one group becuz another is pissed about it, rather than making the two comparable, or more balanced I should say, seems a bit pre-school.



Nullsec has been buffed over, and over, and over, and over. So much so that they basically **** isk at every corner with almost no risk of loss. This is how you have nullsec power blocks fielding 30-40 titans + thousands of capitals in single fights. They make more isk than Jesus makes wine.




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Thayden Reid Nordic
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Deepwater Hooligans
#20 - 2014-10-19 02:12:57 UTC
Well then, from the sounds of things CCP should be able to learn from their past errors, and figure out something that works for caps in high sec. I'd say if anything it should only be Carriers, due to PvE applications, and Indy, not Dreads or supers... But **** idk.

Sounds like Null needs to be Nerfed...

Now let the ragers converge...
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