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Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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Moraguth
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#201 - 2014-10-17 19:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Moraguth
Jori McKie wrote:
Team Burner ....

Burner All....
Quote:
[Garmur, Burner All]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

1MN Afterburner II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script

Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II



EDIT:: I lied, I used 3 caldari navy ballistic control systems. But I'm betting even if you used the cheaper ones it would be just as doable, but you'd require a few more volleys. no big deal. ::EDIT

Just used this exact setup for the Burner Hawk (team) mission. Worked like a charm. Orbited the hawk at 35km, took 0 damage. No relevant implants, cap stable, didn't overload anything. 1st logi frig went down in 29 volleys. 2nd went down in 6 volleys. Hawk went down in 6 more. Unfortunately, I didn't get any good loot and only T1 salvage. But on the plus side, I DIDN'T LOSE MY SHIP PRAISE WHATEVER GOD(ESS) YOU WISH I DIDN'T LOSE THE SHIP!

Thank you for restoring my faith in burner missions.

I got a Feature Added!

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John Blackthrone
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#202 - 2014-10-21 20:07:02 UTC  |  Edited by: John Blackthrone
Hi,

I have a burner mission available (VS Dramiel). Since my skills are only good with flying Amarr ships/Laser Guns and the Retribution sucks I want to ask if there is a good fitting for a Succubus vs that dramiel?

4 Meds should be good (tripple web and AB). But can I armor tank that Succi enough? Kin and Explo Hardener and a C-Type Repper with Repping/Resistance/Dmg Rigs?

Not sure I will do enough dmg without Heat Sink although I have all Gunnery Skills at V =\

Any ideas? Or a alternative Amarr/Laser ship that can handle the Dramiel?
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#203 - 2014-10-22 11:05:35 UTC
John Blackthrone wrote:
Hi,

I have a burner mission available (VS Dramiel). Since my skills are only good with flying Amarr ships/Laser Guns and the Retribution sucks I want to ask if there is a good fitting for a Succubus vs that dramiel?



[Succubus, burner dramiel ]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

1MN Afterburner II
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Pithum C-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier

Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

i fly this one. just burn away. time is something around 1:30 min and tested roughly 50 times.

John Blackthrone
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#204 - 2014-10-22 15:48:08 UTC
one web is enough? But okay will try this one thank you :)
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#205 - 2014-10-22 16:48:04 UTC
John Blackthrone wrote:
one web is enough?


yes, he will follow you in a straight line with a bit more speed. if he is at 600 m he fly some spirals around you to get back at 2k which causes 3-4 missing hits.
Kromarx
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#206 - 2014-10-23 05:31:26 UTC
I tried the kite Garmur vs Worm burner with miserable results. The Enyo kicked it's butt however I don't see how you could beat the worm with the no-tank Garmur fit?
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#207 - 2014-10-23 10:30:11 UTC
the notank garmur is for the teamburners.
Sinsabul
Fraternity Holding
Fraternity.
#208 - 2014-10-28 06:48:08 UTC
I've been running these in null recently and the risk vs reward ratio is much better if you don't do them in Garmurs and DDs with a-type mods. Granted, once you're in the mission, you're relatively safe from ganks. Besides the fact that there's a frig only gate, I've also noticed lately that the burner rat will often target the "next guy in" which is interesting because I read previously that they stick with the first person in. There seem to have been some noticeable tweaks since this thread began, but there are at least 3 solo burner missions fairly easy to do still in cost effective AFs with nothing more that t2 modules, *t1 riggs, and no links, boosters, or implants. I highly recommend level V skills though or they might not work.

There's the Gurista burner Worm that you can kill with a mwd Enyo. The fit has been posted previously on here. Mine may differ slightly because, like I said, I have no t2 rigging on it. I did want to point out one trick in case no one else mentioned it. Make sure you bring a drone and do not use it except for an emergency...such as: You burn out your mwd by way of terrible luck before scramming the worm. Simply align out, launch your drone at the worm and be ready to warp when it switches aggro. Sometimes the dram even runs from the drone and gets too far away to even point you.

Next, we have the Sansha burner Succubus. You can use an AC Wolf. Again, it's a borrowed fit, but just in case it's: Lows - a SAR, 2x Gyro II, 1x TE II and one fourion TE (cpu probably), Mid - one tracking computer II with range script and a small CB II, Highs - 4x AC 200 II loaded with faction emp. Rigs- small anti-therm pump 1, small projectile ambit extension 1. That's it, just sit there and watch...sometimes you have to activate your cap booster (be sure not to waste them with auto-repeat on)

My favorite fit though is vs the Blood Raiders burner, Cruor. I got the idea from the passive brick tank worm. That person was using a mobile depot and throwing endless drones at it though. I'm cheap....and lazy. Thus, the passive shield Wolf:

Lows:
4x shield power relay II
1x beta reactor control: shield power relay I

Mids:
1x Medium SE II
1x Medium f-s9 regolith...

Highs:
4x 150mm AC II (faction fusion ammo)
1x Rocket launcher II (faction nova)

Rigs:
1x small projectile burst aerator I
1x small anti-thermal screen reinforcer I

Align toward something, turn on your guns and launcher, go have a smoke or a beer. It's not the fastest way. If you do have to reload, relax, go smoke again and/or grab another beer. You NEED level V skills for this fit to work right. You can obviously augment it with links, boosters, or implants but you don't need them.

-Sins
Criver Halbrin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#209 - 2014-10-28 17:30:38 UTC
I'm sure this wouldn't work for all burners, but the last one I did against an Enyo class frig and two logi I used a Kiting Tristan with ECM. The general idea was to use ECM against the logi (obv apply ECM on the logi you are /not/ shooting at) one at a time, then ECM the Enyo while applying all the drone DPS to him. I lost 4 drones, but otherwise took them all down unscathed.

I probably could have even dropped the Sheild induction mod for a second ECM as they never got close enough to me to be a threat.

[Tristan, Gallante Burner]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I

75mm Gatling Rail II

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I


Warrior II x8

Spike S x400
Aerine Diamond
Perkone
Caldari State
#210 - 2014-11-01 18:39:29 UTC
Is it worth to try to run these missions in a Kitsune? I imagine fitting 2 or 3 jammers would certainly take protect you from them, wouldn't it?
jackudza
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#211 - 2014-11-02 08:08:04 UTC
Aerine Diamond wrote:
Is it worth to try to run these missions in a Kitsune? I imagine fitting 2 or 3 jammers would certainly take protect you from them, wouldn't it?


Nope.
Serpentis Burner Jamming
Snape Dieboldmotor
Minotaur Congress
#212 - 2014-11-07 03:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Snape Dieboldmotor
I wanted to post a inexpensive Kestrel fitting for the team burner missions. I used this for a Team Hawk burner mission.

You'll need a 3% CPU implant. I also used a Standard Mindflood Booster (capacitor) to make the ship cap stable otherwise you'll need to stop and start the active modules every couple of minutes.

Since the Kestrel has low DPS, I used the ECM on one of the logi frigs while I slowly brought down the other logi.

[Kestrel, team burner]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I

Good luck!
Kadashuken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#213 - 2014-11-08 17:57:28 UTC
Snape Dieboldmotor wrote:
I wanted to post a inexpensive Kestrel fitting for the team burner missions. I used this for a Team Hawk burner mission.

You'll need a 3% CPU implant. I also used a Standard Mindflood Booster (capacitor) to make the ship cap stable otherwise you'll need to stop and start the active modules every couple of minutes.

Since the Kestrel has low DPS, I used the ECM on one of the logi frigs while I slowly brought down the other logi.

[Kestrel, team burner]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I

Good luck!


116 dps can't be enough. right?
ThePhoniex
Army of the Monkey God
#214 - 2014-11-13 11:54:30 UTC
Hello I need help with a fit for fighting the cruor -blood raider burner.

Basically I'm a Amar ship and laser pilot and this is burner I get to fight or least offered to fight repeatedly it seems. I can fly a really nice retribution but the first time I tried I died and I can go back in a more pimped ship but wanted to ask if I was banging my head against the wall or what... because ship I fly uses cap to pew.. and then cant fit a prop mod, cap booster and a web. So I have a alt with missile skills that can fly Caldara ships, would a light missile or rocket Hawk work better?

So here was the fit-all t2

H
4 small focused pulse lasers-scorch

M
small cap booster 2
languor web

L
HS
SAR2
3 membrane or hardener- EM/therm - trying to get 75~80% resist to EM/therm

rig
algid energy admin unit
resistance rig

The first time through I basically lost DPS and tank because of the neut.. then eventually ran out of booster charges before I could get away due to the web. Has anyone done the cruor in a retribution and had it be "easy"? due to X fit? Thanks
Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#215 - 2014-11-13 15:35:50 UTC
Well flying only amarr is a problem when fighting the cruor burner. The retri shoots his biggest resists and has cap issues.

If you have rocket skills, I would rather try the vengeance. Guns will always fire and the vamp helps keeping the mids alive. This fit is expensive but cpu is tight, so:

[Vengeance, antiBurner_cruor_expensive]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Coreli B-Type Small Armor Repairer
Corelum C-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized EM Membrane

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

be advised though that I never actually tried that fit. dmg and resists are on the low side and the rep will, even overloaded, over time not save you from death. So bring a buddy or alt to support you.

Regarding the hawk the fit is very similar:

[Hawk, AntiBurner_cruor]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Its even more expensive and has roughly the same stats.

Both options are not ideal though. I was only able to solo the crour in a wolf. But that works great. Other than that I think someone in this thread said something about a passive worm fit, but it did sound tedious.

Well good luck! Since the fits are expensive, bring a buddy or your alt in a disposable drone boat. I found that burners are easily distracted by them and it gives you room to escape if **** hits the fan.


Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#216 - 2014-11-13 16:24:36 UTC
passive jag does also well. its very tight on cpu

[Jaguar, Burner V4 bloodraider cruor]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Gistum B-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Medium Shield Extender II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Core Defense Field Purger II
Small Core Defense Field Purger II


ThePhoniex
Army of the Monkey God
#217 - 2014-11-14 13:01:04 UTC
Tore Smith wrote:
Well flying only amarr is a problem when fighting the cruor burner. The retri shoots his biggest resists and has cap issues.

If you have rocket skills, I would rather try the vengeance. Guns will always fire and the vamp helps keeping the mids alive. This fit is expensive but cpu is tight, so:

[Vengeance, antiBurner_cruor_expensive]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Coreli B-Type Small Armor Repairer
Corelum C-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized EM Membrane

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

be advised though that I never actually tried that fit. dmg and resists are on the low side and the rep will, even overloaded, over time not save you from death. So bring a buddy or alt to support you.

Regarding the hawk the fit is very similar:

[Hawk, AntiBurner_cruor]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Its even more expensive and has roughly the same stats.

Both options are not ideal though. I was only able to solo the crour in a wolf. But that works great. Other than that I think someone in this thread said something about a passive worm fit, but it did sound tedious.

Well good luck! Since the fits are expensive, bring a buddy or your alt in a disposable drone boat. I found that burners are easily distracted by them and it gives you room to escape if **** hits the fan.




Thanks for the advice, I think I agree that just outfitting a even more pimp retribution is just going to end up dead again. I guess it time for the hawk... but of course I have great light missiles skills but horrible rocket skills.. So I'm going to have to try to figure out a Hawk light missile fit for my alt. The only nice thing is that at least I get to start off at 80% thermal resists:) That or train min frig to 5 and small proj turrets to 5.. not horrible but definitely not something I want to cut my current int/mem skill plan short for. Thanks again!
Satori Sartori
All-Out
#218 - 2014-11-22 12:28:54 UTC
Saulstarinsh wrote:
[Garmur, kite]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

1MN Afterburner II
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Small Ionic Field Projector I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II



Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2689
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile x1877
Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x1433
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x1500


just try this fit on enyo burner works excellent much better than without ECM


Worked without pimp damage mods for the Vengeance one, and with the correct ECM. Not max skills either.
Typher Sloan
Vagabonds and Freelancers
#219 - 2014-11-25 21:44:30 UTC
How much money are you all pouring into these ships? Is it actually worth the risk?
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
#220 - 2014-11-25 21:51:44 UTC
Typher Sloan wrote:
How much money are you all pouring into these ships? Is it actually worth the risk?



t2 works