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Why npc alt posters are bad...

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#21 - 2014-10-17 15:29:16 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
What is definitely missing is a block button outside the game.


Is he still bombarding you with his awful personal attacks, hun?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2014-10-17 15:30:35 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
I doubt the 1.6M ISK new corp fee will deter many forum alts from forming a one man corp to shiptost. Maybe make it so you can't post unless you undock for at least a hour a week? IDK...

Forum allowance based on activity... that's not that bad actually.

Anyhow, open for suggestions.

id suggest you read this then.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Solecist Project
#23 - 2014-10-17 15:30:49 UTC
Nope.
Not yet. :)

It's actually weird that we can't block people outside of the game, no?


That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-10-17 15:33:40 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Nope.
Not yet. :)

It's actually weird that we can't block people outside of the game, no?




It's :content:.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#25 - 2014-10-17 15:34:04 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Nope.
Not yet. :)

It's actually weird that we can't block people outside of the game, no?


It is a bit. Seems they forgot that.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solecist Project
#26 - 2014-10-17 15:38:22 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
I doubt the 1.6M ISK new corp fee will deter many forum alts from forming a one man corp to shiptost. Maybe make it so you can't post unless you undock for at least a hour a week? IDK...

Forum allowance based on activity... that's not that bad actually.

Anyhow, open for suggestions.

id suggest you read this then.

Well I guess I am adding to the point.

Thanks for linking it. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
The Forum Alt
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-10-17 15:58:57 UTC
Nothing wrong with NPC alts.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-10-17 16:06:23 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
I take full responsibility.

This shouldn't be breaking of rules.

This shows why allowing npc shitposters outside of new players are is bad.

they can hide, have a big mouth and nothing stops them.

there is a point to be made.


So if I give up 8 minutes of training time to make myself a one-man corp, all problems are solved?

I see you have thought this through.
Well it wouldn't work like that. As you have shown, that is too easy to circumvent.

CAOD has a 10 member minimum limit, so something along those lines.


Link in my sig I already suggested it and plenty of support in it in favor for that idea.

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Solecist Project
#29 - 2014-10-17 16:09:52 UTC
The Forum Alt wrote:
Nothing wrong with NPC alts.

Well ... I guess this strongly depends on behaviour.

I do know and understand that people exist who legitimately don't wish
to leave the npc corp ... members of CAS, for example ...
... but when you can do whatever you want without negative consequences ...

.... that's not within the style of EVE.

Cowards who hide behind npc alts to post crap ...
... who know that nothing will stop them ...
... nothing happens to them ingame ...
... and bans take too long to be enacted.

It shouldn't be this way.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-10-17 16:10:26 UTC
The Forum Alt wrote:
Nothing wrong with NPC alts.


Until they post.

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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-10-17 16:11:24 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

I agree with you and I am absolutely open for suggestions.

It would be a start, though.


I have absolutely no problem with NPC forum alts (obviously). Lying, scamming and hiding identities is a key part of EVE. Why should the forums be any different? Forums are simply another tool to use to gather intel. NPC alts let people gather intel without giving anything away.
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#32 - 2014-10-17 16:12:34 UTC
Punishing many due to errors of a few is never a good idea.

There is plenty of examples of players that are in player corps trolling and abusing in this forum, should all player corps be banned from posting too?
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#33 - 2014-10-17 16:13:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Miko Jin
Came looking for content and opinions but left disapointed as I am not allowed due to being an Alt!

IB4L due to lack of content and opinion.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-10-17 16:18:00 UTC
Yossarian Toralen wrote:
Punishing many due to errors of a few is never a good idea.

There is plenty of examples of players that are in player corps trolling and abusing in this forum, should all player corps be banned from posting too?


Yep but, the difference is that player corporation member has to deal with the consequences of their actions. The npc corp member does not. See the link in my sig for more details; it's not a punishment either its a restriction no need to sensationalize it.

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Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#35 - 2014-10-17 16:18:33 UTC
I love how the same people who go around spewing the "HTFU" and "EVE has consequences huehuehue" lines are totally okay with alt posting, because dodging the consequences of having stupid opinions or trolling is the only reason to post on an alt. Anything else is a paper-thin justification.

The cognitive dissonance is hilarious.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-10-17 16:19:21 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
I doubt the 1.6M ISK new corp fee will deter many forum alts from forming a one man corp to shiptost. Maybe make it so you can't post unless you undock for at least a hour a week? IDK...

Forum allowance based on activity... that's not that bad actually.

Anyhow, open for suggestions.

id suggest you read this then.


Isn't that just cute. A GSF member lecturing about forum rules.
Solecist Project
#37 - 2014-10-17 16:19:37 UTC
Yossarian Toralen wrote:
Punishing many due to errors of a few is never a good idea.

There is plenty of examples of players that are in player corps trolling and abusing in this forum, should all player corps be banned from posting too?

You missed the detail ghat people in player corps actually log in ...
... and play ...
... thus face the possibility of consequences.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#38 - 2014-10-17 16:20:42 UTC
Caviar... please.

Thanks. :p

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#39 - 2014-10-17 16:24:58 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Came looking for content and opinions but left disapointed as I am not allowed due to being an Alt!

IB4L due to lack of content and opinion.


You are allowed to

That's the problem

As evidenced by your fascinating post

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-10-17 16:25:29 UTC
I have posted this before and will again:

I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now, anyone who posts with their main: I know who you are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?

I am an honest, decent person in real life. EVE lets me 'be the villain'. Anonymous alts help me gather intel to do just that. 'Be the villain', you know, as CCP said I could?