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Kinzi Mitchi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-15 19:11:23 UTC
Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?

1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show)
2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life?
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-10-15 19:27:00 UTC
If you dont jump it, it doesnt open the k162.
Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#3 - 2014-10-15 20:56:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Obil Que
Kinzi Mitchi wrote:
Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?

1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show)
2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life?


Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows

1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side
2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change)
3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change)
4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
It's all in the devblog
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-10-15 21:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
Obil Que wrote:
Kinzi Mitchi wrote:
Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?

1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show)
2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life?


Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows

1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side
2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change)
3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change)
4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
It's all in the devblog


There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner.

+5 for use of the word "instantiate".

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#5 - 2014-10-15 21:49:21 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Obil Que wrote:
Kinzi Mitchi wrote:
Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?

1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show)
2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life?


Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows

1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side
2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change)
3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change)
4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
It's all in the devblog


There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner.

+5 for use of the word "instantiate".


Put the pipe down moomoo.

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#6 - 2014-10-15 22:58:25 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner.

Not true



Obil Que wrote:
"instantiate"

Good word

I'm right behind you
Ilaister
Binary Aesthetics
#7 - 2014-10-15 23:32:32 UTC
Alundil wrote:

Obil Que wrote:
"instantiate"

Good word


I'd have gone with manifests myself.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#8 - 2014-10-15 23:49:23 UTC
When you crush a hole, it insubstantiates.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Winthorp
#9 - 2014-10-16 00:47:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
I don't really like raw eggs myself, i much prefer poached eggs and forum search functions.
Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#10 - 2014-10-16 03:20:04 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
I don't really like raw eggs myself, i much prefer poached eggs and forum search functions.


The poached egg is king of all cooked egg products.

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Kinzi Mitchi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-16 07:34:25 UTC
Obil Que wrote:

Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows

1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side
2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change)
3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change)
4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
It's all in the devblog


Yes, I read this closely today and hence my question as it does not cover case 5.

5. a static wh is scanned down, a raw book mark is added, but warp is not instantiated.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#12 - 2014-10-16 08:13:59 UTC
It will sit there forever, just like it has always been. Few days ago I scanned my statics, then had to leave the game, came back about 24 hours later, warped to the holes and jumped through. They were fresh and they later expired after their usual lifetime.

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Kinzi Mitchi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-10-16 08:49:14 UTC
thanks all
Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#14 - 2014-10-16 12:32:05 UTC
Kinzi Mitchi wrote:
Obil Que wrote:

Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows

1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side
2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change)
3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change)
4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
It's all in the devblog


Yes, I read this closely today and hence my question as it does not cover case 5.

5. a static wh is scanned down, a raw book mark is added, but warp is not instantiated.


Technically that is case 1 without proceeding to the other cases which means yes, it will never

instantiate

at least until someone visits your hole via another random wormhole connection and opens it for you
Rei Moon
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-10-16 15:53:08 UTC
Visit my hole.
Don't.

Down the pole podcast "Annhhh"
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-10-16 17:13:04 UTC
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Obil Que wrote:
Kinzi Mitchi wrote:
Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?

1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show)
2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life?


Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows

1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side
2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change)
3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change)
4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
It's all in the devblog


There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner.

+5 for use of the word "instantiate".


Put the pipe down moomoo.


I will NOT.

I swear I watched it happen a few days ago.

vOv guess I was just high.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.