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Deirdre Semmes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-01 17:03:46 UTC
Hi,

I have a few questions about that.

Produce a BPC from a BPO does not seems to cost a lot of money, so is it a possible income source, or people refrain from buying BPC when BPO are on the market?

How do you see the efficiency improvements and number of runs of a BPC you want to buy? If this is not possible, I guess the BPC market is not very thrilling for buyers.

Thanks...
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2014-10-01 17:13:17 UTC
Inventors buy a lot of BPCs. As well as capital component builders that don't have the 6+ billion to purchase the BPOs.

I sell Cap Component BPCs and 1 run ship BPCs and there is a line up for them.

I guess what I'm saying is that there is a market. You just have to identify and exploit it. It's not going to make you rich, but it takes advantage of any empty production slots you are not otherwise using at the moment.

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Deirdre Semmes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-10-01 17:56:29 UTC
So people assume the sold BPC are of the crapiest sort? You can't know how many runs and the efficiency put into it?

In any case I understand from what you say that BPC costs not much to be produced and can be sold, this is a good news. Is it not a source of income for new players also?
voetius
Grundrisse
#4 - 2014-10-01 18:07:14 UTC
Deirdre Semmes wrote:
So people assume the sold BPC are of the crapiest sort? You can't know how many runs and the efficiency put into it?

In any case I understand from what you say that BPC costs not much to be produced and can be sold, this is a good news. Is it not a source of income for new players also?


You can see the runs and ME / TE by looking at the details in the contract.

As to selling them as an income stream. Sure, it's just like anything on the market. There is a barrier to entry into the market that reflects the time, knowledge and effort required to do something and that in turn determines the number of players and potential profits to be made.

As Mr Epeen says, if you focus on particular items, generally more high ticket, and investigate the market you may find what you are looking for.

BPCs can only be sold on contract and you can study the market for a particular BPC that is sold by searching contracts for that item, look at the regular sellers, Show Info on them, click the bars in the top left and Show Contracts, to view their history of public contracts. It takes some time and effort, but remember that that is an entry barrier that prevent less patient people from entering the market.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-10-01 18:11:52 UTC
Deirdre Semmes wrote:

Hi,

I have a few questions about that.

Produce a BPC from a BPO does not seems to cost a lot of money, so is it a possible income source, or people refrain from buying BPC when BPO are on the market?

How do you see the efficiency improvements and number of runs of a BPC you want to buy? If this is not possible, I guess the BPC market is not very thrilling for buyers.

Thanks...


So people assume the sold BPC are of the crapiest sort? You can't know how many runs and the efficiency put into it?

In any case I understand from what you say that BPC costs not much to be produced and can be sold, this is a good news. Is it not a source of income for new players also?



There is a market for it (for T2 invention mostly), check contracts (as that's the only place you can sell BPCs and "used" BPOs - used = used for production and/or research).


And with contracts you CAN see the status on how good a BPC / BPO is researched etc.

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-10-01 19:44:02 UTC
Deirdre Semmes wrote:
Is it not a source of income for new players also?


Probably not.

To sell copies efficiently, you need science skills trained high (copy time reduction, more simultaneous jobs) and you need to have blueprints that are worth copying. Neither of which really applies to very new players
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#7 - 2014-10-01 21:30:03 UTC
Deirdre Semmes wrote:
Is it not a source of income for new players also?


It can be done as a relatively new player.

Take my previous example of copying ship BPOs for instance. First look at the market to decide what T2 frigates are selling best. Then buy two T1 BPOs for that ship. Put one directly into research and copy as many 1 run copies as you can of the other. Unlike most other things where you want max run copies for invention, ship inventors want min run copies. That's to your advantage, time wise.

Once your research is complete switch them up and repeat until you have have two fully researched BPOs running copies.

Now you have a nice little side business going that didn't cost a mint to get started in and also didn't cost a year of training to have the skills for. A couple of skills trained to 4 and some cheap BPOs. You might even find a regular buyer for your copies so you won't even need to train more than contracting to level 1 or 2 in the way of marketing skills.

Mr Epeen Cool
Solette Cheli
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-10-01 23:55:25 UTC
OP, for actual selling, let me point you to this brave guide - https://wiki.braveineve.com/dojo/guides/sellingbpcs
But mr epeen has it right.
Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#9 - 2014-10-02 15:33:24 UTC
Also, the way they are only sold through contracts makes the whole business a bit more tedious. Fiddlier to create the offers, and much harder to discover price history except by experience.
Projak Dynamo
Pro Synergy
#10 - 2014-10-16 08:40:44 UTC
Thx to all you above, this has answered many questions I had been harbouring on BPC/BPO selling and how it interacts with other peoples invention needs.

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