EVE General Discussion

Katrina. Politicians not putting funding into infrastructure.
Mount St Helens. Politicians failing to put funding into disaster planning.
San Francisco fires. Politicians failing at urban planning and emergency response funding.
Multiple earthquake disasters. Politicians failing to heed expert advice.
Want a few hundred more examples?

Everything is politics dude! 'Natural' disaster or not. So all you tightass cheap bastards just own up. It's not because it's 'political', it's because you can't spare a couple of hours of time in a make believe world to help out victims in the real world.

It makes me sick sometimes to think I actually share the same genes with these people.

Mr Epeen

Absolutely boulderdash. Are you saying that politicians can control natural disasters and volcanoes now?

Any of the above would not save lives and infrastructure.

Absolutely boulderdash.

Theres one HUGE problem with funding relief in war zones...they are war zones and the relief gets taken and fund the fighting.

I could site various instances of this happening. *sighs*

The issue with a drive of PLEX for Good campaign in Syria is that it'll only go to the civilian group supported by the 'good guys' and thereby you'll be choosing sides, wether you want it or not.
Are the civilians in need of assistance in the 'goverment controlled' areas the 'good' ones'? Or the civilians in 'rebel controlled areas' the 'good ones'? or maybe the civilians in the IS territories need the aid the most?

And above is why it's bad for CCP to get a PLEX for good going for Syria, because they'll be forced to takes sides, unwillingly, even when they donate to an aid-organisation.
With that said, there is plenty of aid-organisations you as individual can support, without CCP acting for you, you can even select which side you believe is 'right' to be supported.

In that respect, an area struck by a natural disaster is much more clear, all civilians are victim of that natural disaster, the only side you got to pick is *help the people affected by the natural disaster.

I dont think there are any charities left in that hell hole to donate to that wont spend the money on more weapons. I dont want to fund a charity workers murder as they try to get in there to help anyone...

Do you really think that a natural disaster in a totalitarian regime would be any different than a war zone when it comes to rationing supplies? Yet we send aid anyway. Not because of which side gets it, but because we have faith that people in need will get it.

As to giving personally. I do. But donating PLEX through CCP is a lot less painful for many people. You can feed a starving family for the cost of a few hours game time.

There are no 'good guys' or 'bad guys'. Those roles are interchangeable depending on what you believe. The only thing you should be considering is do you sit back in your nice home with a full belly and pass judgement? Or do you help people in need? People that one day in the future, you might need aid from.

Wars pass. Enemies become friends and friends become enemies. But one thing never changes. Doing good by your fellow human beings can only help in the long run.

Mr Epeen

So, basically what you are saying, is that since the Red Cross doesn't have the satchel to deliver to people in need because ~safety~, any group who does is automatically untrustworthy?

They also have a reputation for doing that in active war zones. Get out of your bubble or stop making **** up. Whichever applies in your case.

Mr Epeen

I will say that again. Plex financed by ISK is no comittment what so ever. It is the money someone else earned and spent. Buying plex with with money and then donate said plex is rather stupid as you (in case of my country) have to pay 20% tax on it that will nevermind reach anyone in Syria.
Donate for the res cross, donate for the red crescent, donate for a know help Organisation but please stop with wasting your or other persons money.

syria isn't a natural disaster, i'm not inclined to donate anything to it.

I would like to address some concerns. While the concerns are, of course, legitimate, many of the mentioned argumentations are not based on realities on the ground.

The Red Cross is a bi-partisan organisation with decades of experience and expertise. It helps people regardless of where they live or what they might think or believe. Humans affected by the Syrian war did not choose to have their homes destroyed, their families murdered and their access to food, water and medical supplies cut off.

If PLEX for GOOD is meant to be a public relations show that does take into consideration prejudice and misinformation, I agree that money should go where the nice pictures come from. The aim, however, is to help people. Maybe it is a bit naïve to think it can be done without thinking of how it reflects back on yourself, but I strongly believe that help should be provided. That said I also completely subscribe to what Marsha Mallow wrote.

Many of us have strong political opinions when it comes to Syria, yet they do not come into play here. It is not about “right” or “wrong” in a political sense, but in a humanitarian sense that does neither judge nor ask about beliefs and judgements.

When it comes to the PLEX vs. real lief money: Many players are not able to spend their real life money. However, as they can spend some million ISK they are able to contribute to something bigger. It does not mean they will not be able to contribute to the Red Cross directly. It does not mean they will not be able to not to contribute at all. It just enables them to use this different channel. It is still their choice.

The humanitarian crisis in Syria is one of the most devastating of this century. I cannot see why people would not be affected by a suffering human because his suffering was not caused by a volcano, but by a gun. I cannot see why people would argue against helping fellow humans afflicted by horrors that go beyond our believes.

Edit:

The Red Cross is doing a tremendous job in Syria. You can find out more on their homepage.