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The 2,000 AUR question: take or leave?
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#41 - 2011-12-13 10:31:19 UTC
I took the remaps.

The giveaway aurum offers are an obviously desperate attempt to breath some illusionary life into a dead and rotten MT store. If you want to play the wise long game just ignore it and it'll end up getting more desperate yet (and giving more aurum away) or will fold completely and give everything away (ie adding the NeX content to the character designer / faction lp stores).

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Alexingeras
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#42 - 2011-12-13 12:07:59 UTC
Took the remap, best thing you can get for Christmas eve-wise. Only way i would have taken the aurum if it could pay for 2 remaps.
Forum Alt Shaishi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2011-12-13 13:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Alt Shaishi
I dont realy care for the Arum, tho there are some things in there that are a bit more intresting;
The zephyr or the remap for example.

Edit: Fuel block BP's are BPO's. Link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=507803#post507803
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#44 - 2011-12-13 13:58:02 UTC
I picked

2 x Thrasher(lots of ammo)
1 x Medium hybrid
1 x Medium projectile
1 x Medium missile

All usefull to me. I don't use the remaps, I'm happy with my current attributes. Not sure what that guy with 20mil sp is talking about though. Training isn't importamt after 20mil sp?

I still have all my free AUR from eveisreal. Buy most of my clothes on the market. Would have been happy to add 2k more though.

Thanks CCP for all the goodies!

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#45 - 2011-12-13 18:38:18 UTC
Hmm... well actually, looking around at contracts, I think the Quaffe zero opt'ers might be on to something. In ISK terms, that might be the most valuable option. I still can't make up my mind..
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2011-12-13 18:40:45 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
I picked

2 x Thrasher(lots of ammo)
1 x Medium hybrid
1 x Medium projectile
1 x Medium missile

All usefull to me. I don't use the remaps, I'm happy with my current attributes. Not sure what that guy with 20mil sp is talking about though. Training isn't importamt after 20mil sp?

I still have all my free AUR from eveisreal. Buy most of my clothes on the market. Would have been happy to add 2k more though.

Thanks CCP for all the goodies!


I also took trashers . Dont know why, never flied one.

What i meant that optimalizing SP/hrs is not "the most important thing" in EVE. once you reach some level lets say you can fly BS T2 fitted and well munins or zealots whatever... Then you are actually usable combat character .

Sure for industry and science the level of SP is probably different.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#47 - 2011-12-16 14:16:05 UTC
In case that some of you didn't decided yet, here's a word of advice from Mittens:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/208990/page/2

Quote:
However, I can say - purely from unspoken nuances that aren’t covered by NDAs - that CCP seems to have backed away from the NeX store concept. Aurum seems to be a dirty word - or a bitter joke - around the office. This isn't to say that CCP will never implement some form of microtransactions, but the devs now contemplate the idea with a degree of care bordering on the terror - Microtransaction PTSD, as it were.


In case you already took the 2,000 AUR, I suggest to petition to withdraw your choice before holiday gifts are sent december 22nd.

(Frankly, I smelled rats about giving away an esteemed 250 million to people when everything else is around the 40 million mark...)

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#48 - 2011-12-16 14:24:54 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
In case that some of you didn't decided yet, here's a word of advice from Mittens:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/208990/page/2

Quote:
However, I can say - purely from unspoken nuances that aren’t covered by NDAs - that CCP seems to have backed away from the NeX store concept. Aurum seems to be a dirty word - or a bitter joke - around the office. This isn't to say that CCP will never implement some form of microtransactions, but the devs now contemplate the idea with a degree of care bordering on the terror - Microtransaction PTSD, as it were.


In case you already took the 2,000 AUR, I suggest to petition to withdraw your choice before holiday gifts are sent december 22nd.

(Frankly, I smelled rats about giving away an esteemed 250 million to people when everything else is around the 40 million mark...)




Good. They need to just remove the NeX store completely and vow never to stoop that low again(at least in EvE).

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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#49 - 2011-12-16 14:32:54 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
In case that some of you didn't decided yet, here's a word of advice from Mittens:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/208990/page/2

Quote:
However, I can say - purely from unspoken nuances that aren’t covered by NDAs - that CCP seems to have backed away from the NeX store concept. Aurum seems to be a dirty word - or a bitter joke - around the office. This isn't to say that CCP will never implement some form of microtransactions, but the devs now contemplate the idea with a degree of care bordering on the terror - Microtransaction PTSD, as it were.


In case you already took the 2,000 AUR, I suggest to petition to withdraw your choice before holiday gifts are sent december 22nd.

(Frankly, I smelled rats about giving away an esteemed 250 million to people when everything else is around the 40 million mark...)




Good. Seems the Eve developers have come to see Aurum in exactly the same light that players opposed to Microtransactions contaminating Eve online do.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2011-12-16 15:01:37 UTC
oh dear so sad oh well

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#51 - 2011-12-16 15:08:17 UTC
Remap?

wtf

I had no ******* remap as a choice

I took the CA-1, as I missed out on that even though my account was active and I log on every day.

.
Freezehunter
#52 - 2011-12-16 15:42:17 UTC
Chose the remap.

Best gift out of all of them.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2011-12-16 15:46:19 UTC
I am sure this is just another example of "The Mittani" blowing smoke out of his ass. CCP can't possibly be stupid enough to introduce something like the NEX store and then just drop it and let it stagnate forever just because of a few whiny bitches that don't understand that CCP needs to make money and can't possibly just ignore something that doesn't effect them if they don't want to use it.

Then again maybe they are...

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Sera Nido
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2011-12-16 15:49:09 UTC
I might've taken the AUR, and I'd be happy to buy some with plex too, if only there was ANYTHING remotely interesting to spend it on...

how about a business suit for the indys?
some piratey gear?
racial specific stuff?
lingerie?


c'mon CCP. it's already there, just add some more clothes...
Disdaine
#55 - 2011-12-16 15:51:21 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
In case that some of you didn't decided yet, here's a word of advice from Mittens:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/208990/page/2

Quote:
However, I can say - purely from unspoken nuances that aren’t covered by NDAs - that CCP seems to have backed away from the NeX store concept. Aurum seems to be a dirty word - or a bitter joke - around the office. This isn't to say that CCP will never implement some form of microtransactions, but the devs now contemplate the idea with a degree of care bordering on the terror - Microtransaction PTSD, as it were.


In case you already took the 2,000 AUR, I suggest to petition to withdraw your choice before holiday gifts are sent december 22nd.

(Frankly, I smelled rats about giving away an esteemed 250 million to people when everything else is around the 40 million mark...)



Damn shame.

Service that didn't exist before, didn't require a lot of development, provided a nice isk sink and didn't impinge upon anybodies gameplay.

Killed by a bunch of binge drinking frat boys.

Thats ok, I hope CCP just moves the nex store and future items like ship skins etc to account management for real dollars, no more spending surplus isk on a monocle through the market. Account bound vanity items for cash only thanks.

Or just up the subscription rate and plex cost. Probably overdue for a bump.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#56 - 2011-12-16 16:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I am sure this is just another example of "The Mittani" blowing smoke out of his ass. CCP can't possibly be stupid enough to introduce something like the NEX store and then just drop it and let it stagnate forever just because of a few whiny bitches that don't understand that CCP needs to make money and can't possibly just ignore something that doesn't effect them if they don't want to use it.

Then again maybe they are...


those "few whiny bitches" are the difference between the company succeeding or failing. They are pretty much the user base who decided to express their strong disapproval for microtransactions this summer and autumn.

You are remaking the same bankrupt arguments as NeX-advocates have all along that have been refuted a thosand times. CCP makes money by increasing the number of subscribers. You don't get to make a significant additional income from MT payments in a premium subscription title unless your customers are idiots. Just because some of the idiots are vocal idiots doesn't change this essential dynamic.

If you want to give CCP extra money without impacting the sandbox I suggest you withdraw a hundred bucks from an ATM machine, address an envelope to "CCP hilmar - Iceland", slip the cash inside and feel good about yourself.

(alternatively you could open a 2nd account or buy some extra plex).

Just quit pushing this NeX crap on the rest of us who want our content delivered by in-game player-centric production systems that express the unique vision of the Eve single server universe.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#57 - 2011-12-16 16:03:29 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
In case that some of you didn't decided yet, here's a word of advice from Mittens:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/208990/page/2

Quote:
However, I can say - purely from unspoken nuances that aren’t covered by NDAs - that CCP seems to have backed away from the NeX store concept. Aurum seems to be a dirty word - or a bitter joke - around the office. This isn't to say that CCP will never implement some form of microtransactions, but the devs now contemplate the idea with a degree of care bordering on the terror - Microtransaction PTSD, as it were.


In case you already took the 2,000 AUR, I suggest to petition to withdraw your choice before holiday gifts are sent december 22nd.

(Frankly, I smelled rats about giving away an esteemed 250 million to people when everything else is around the 40 million mark...)



Damn shame.

Service that didn't exist before, didn't require a lot of development, provided a nice isk sink and didn't impinge upon anybodies gameplay.

Killed by a bunch of binge drinking frat boys.

Thats ok, I hope CCP just moves the nex store and future items like ship skins etc to account management for real dollars, no more spending surplus isk on a monocle through the market. Account bound vanity items for cash only thanks.

Or just up the subscription rate and plex cost. Probably overdue for a bump.



Or stop wasting untold millions of Eve subscription dollars developing World of Darkness on the dodgy provisio it'll kick back some wonderful incarna tech for us to swoon over.

Wait. Hasn't that already happened?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#58 - 2011-12-16 16:04:45 UTC
Anything on that list is of more use and value than the Aurum.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Freezehunter
#59 - 2011-12-16 16:05:30 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I am sure this is just another example of "The Mittani" blowing smoke out of his ass. CCP can't possibly be stupid enough to introduce something like the NEX store and then just drop it and let it stagnate forever just because of a few whiny bitches that don't understand that CCP needs to make money and can't possibly just ignore something that doesn't effect them if they don't want to use it.

Then again maybe they are...


those "few whiny bitches" are the difference between the company succeeding or failing. They are pretty much the user base who decided to express their strong disapproval for microtransactions this summer and autumn.

Your are remaking the same bankrupt arguments as NeX-advocates have all along that have been refuted a thosand times. CCP makes money by increasing the number of subscribers. You don't get to make a significant additional income from MT payments in a premium subscription total unless your customers are idiots. Just because some of the idiots are vocal idiots doesn't change this essential dynamic.

If you want to give CCP extra money without impacting the sandbox I suggest you withdraw a hundred bucks from an ATM machine, address an envelope to "CCP hilmar - Iceland", slip the cash inside and feel good about yourself.

(alternatively you could open a 2nd account or buy some extra plex).

Just quit pushing this NeX crap on the rest of us who want our contact delivered by in-game player-centric production systems that express the unique vision of the Eve single server universe.



Post of the ******* year.

This is why I play Eve and not WoW.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2011-12-16 16:07:53 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
(Context: CCP is giving out holiday gifts, which can be chosen from the accout management system. One of the gifts are 2,000 Aurum)


What to do?

Shall we take them so CCP sees people is interested with the whole barbies in space businnes and the NEx MT scheme?

Or shall we leave them, as the NEx is pointlessly devoid while heaps of interesting stuff that work on Sisi are being held as placeholders at TQ for no good reason, and anyway the current MEGA-transaction prices are a bloody ripoff?

Or shall we hope (what else can we do? Shikata na gai!) that in the next days CCP will say something about the WiS issue so we can make an informed decission?

Or at least could we be assured that we won't be scammed by CCP's future actions if we take those AUR instead of something else we can use/sell/give away?


I'm taking the aurum for that day when they let us change bloodline and(hopefully and)/or race. Not much else really appealed to me, since I have a remap coming on the 21st anyway.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!