Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Uhh...who doesn't have a 'show everything' overview tab as standard even without something like this?

Oh look, another person who doesn't read EVE lore.

We don't see systems with "dead stars", black holes or Neutron stars because the stargate network have been carefully directed around these.

Then it isn't a star system at all. It's empty space. When a star "dies," it EJECTS or VAPORIZES everything in a violent eruption. And even after that, there is still a stellar core giving off heat and light (however small) for the next 1+ quadrillion years (yes, this is an actual estimate).

Re-read the articles I linked.


If a star "implodes" then everything in the surrounding area pretty much ceases to exist (because it is now a black hole).

Yes, it is THAT "black and white" of a situation.

A "dead star" either results in a stellar core that takes longer than the universe is hypothetically slated to exist to finally "burn out"... or it becomes an anomaly of epic proportions where time and space bend you over and and twist your ability to perceive the world better than that grade-school bully giving your swirlies in the bathroom

Interesting fact: if you stand in front of the event horizon of a black hole and turn your head to the side, you will SEE the back of your head as if it is right there in front of you (because space is warped due to the immense gravity)... of course... this is assuming that you can move at all because time has come to a near standstill and you are literally stuck at the moment of your death long after your body has been destroyed (because time is "relative" and the heavier something is or faster you move, the slower time will tick).



Which is understandable and an admirable thing. But there is a difference between "plausible," "completely implausible," and "game mechanics need to be this way."

A star system with no light whatsoever falls squarely into the middle category.


I personally would not mind seeing "white dwarf" systems... though... there would be no planets or moons in such a system. Just gas and maybe some dust/rocks.

Don't stangle me if it's not exaclty on topic but close enough:

The Universe documentary

After watching this there is also a link to 'The Universe - Death Stars' which is worth watching. Both very interesiting documentaries.

Sure there are others but I like the narrator's voice.

The idea of adding brown dwarf systems and actual binary solar systems that you can warp between the stars would be cool.

I realize this wasn't done initially to programing issues, but shouldn't be too hard to change.

To be honest, since all Eve solar systems are supposed to be binary, which allows gate travel, it would be cool if all systems became binary, and brown dwarfs could be part of that, and more.

They could expand the even universe by expanding all the solar systems themselves.

Well fist off I would like to change the thread title to Dwarf star systems, since using Dead Star is the wrong term and causing confusion. But I'm no forum expert so im not sure how to go about this..

I'm still pitching this idea because no matter what system you jump into in EVE be it W-space, Null, Low, or High; all the systems will be "Day" setting. Currently we cant get a "Night" setting because you can always see the sun, even if you're in the shadow next to a planet. Only way to get "night" in space is to turn off the sun. Problem to this is it might be easier said than done.

I sincerely doubt that that had anything to do with the obscure binary system star gate lore bit as that's some pretty thin ice. Considering a large portion of those are without an effect and there's still 5,500 or so other systems to consider that don't have an additional star. I think it's pretty clear that it's just a happy coincidence that all the dual star effects are present for your point.

On an additional note I'm well aware that the effects are represented by glorified skybox art. And since you seem to be in a combative mood I'll ask you what lore says I can't warp my ship straight into a neutron star if I found one?(putting aside that it's incredibly daft).

Hell i started playing eve because i want to LOOK AT AWESOME SPACESHIPS (and cause them to explode) this seems like a collosal step backwards

(And a completely ******** idea)

Most stars that die do not turn into black holes. And they certainly don't turn into just dust clouds either. Pretty basic astronomy.

+1 to the OP for being in a system with a neutron star / white or black dwarf.

You could just fly around with your map open. I know it isn't the zero-light effect that you're going for, but it would yield the same results: A complete lack of visual references causing you to have to fly by OV entirely. Besides, flying a spaceship relies very little on visual references anyway.

If you're the captain of a spaceship, you don't have a steering wheel, gas pedal and a brake. You have an officer at a navigation console that monitors vectors, distances, velocities, etc. The navigator calculates coordinates, specified by the captain, and sends an order to engineering, where the engineers do what they need to do to with the propulsion system to make the ship move to the designated coordinates. The closest thing to "driving the ship" that would be done from the bridge would be the helmsman using maneuvering thrusters for things like docking and undocking (which is all done automatically anyway). Granted, we don't actually have ship crews in Eve. Everything is controlled by one person who is encased in a capsule full of goo, but the processes are all the same.

That being said, making a system that is pitch black would be kind of...boring. It would basically be as if you had turned your monitor off, only you would still be able to see your neocom, OV, chat windows, action window, and the light emitted by thrusters. Other than that, it would just be a black screen.