EVE General Discussion

5 is part of 350.000 too... if you didn't know basic math...
(5 is number of CSM represented players, 350.000 is number of EVE players)

And ppl that were raging... yea... there was like few thousands... and few of that few thousands have delegate in CSM.
And about that few thousands... jita cant handle more then 2000ppl, and that 2000 were not all shooters, so say 1500 (and that i said too much) and 500 more in amarr... so 2000 people raging... lets say they have 2 more alts... thats 6000 accounts.
EVE have 350.000 accounts... that's 0.017% of accounts - you can boost that numbers as you like and you will not pass 0.1% of player base.

And even that ppl were not ranging about WiS, they were ranging about golden ammo...
so 99.99% of ppl are ok with or for WiS.

Are you talking about the concept of WiS, or what WiS is at this point in time? Because I think even mittens is absolutely fine, and probably even supports, the concept of WiS, what he definitely seemed annoyed with was the actual implementation.

Only one thought.
WiS haters cant hide behind that protests numbers and say that that was their protests.
If there were not "Golden ammo" talk you would pull 0 ppl "on the streets".

If you want to prove that ppl dont want WiS - organize anti-WiS protests.
I sure want to see 10 ships shooting Jita statue and laugh at their face

Well, CCP kept said WiS is coming, WiS is coming, and I can only assume Mittens got a look at what CCP had in store for WiS. What we got was CQ or a :foreveralone: door, it's no wonder Mittens reacted to it with scorn. Hell, no wonder there were negative reactions across the board. Add to that the gold ammo debacle, etc etc etc etc etc, and it was just a **** expansion from start to finish which pissed off, if not everybody, then at least a vast majority of the players.

Now we've got crucible, and players are mostly appeased with the direction CCP is heading in again, and it seems that the immediate danger of EVE sinking has passed, and now apparently they're done with hunting the jesus and going for solidifying the EVE experience.

I see nowhere that CCP have absolutely cancelled the idea of finalizing WiS, what I've seen is more that they realized that the game as a whole was in more danger than they'd hoped, and that they needed to concentrate on, and fix, what kept the current playerbase happy before they could carry on with their future vision. I'm fairly certain that they're still working on WiS, just at a slightly reduced rate.


I believe it's been said multiple times that the CSM is more a sounding board for CCP, but that they also try to advocate good ideas from the playerbase. There's been a few CSM reps who've put up threads asking for input on ideas to take to CCP.

how so ? Doesnt matter..

My hate for something is that it is the first step for implosion of sun. which is probably true, inevitable and not in my life-time.

I'm confused. What do they need to do then to satisfy you?

Well, after reading Vile Rat's comments on the CSM meeting, I wouldn't count on WiS for a long while. Incarna (aka "Jesus") has become the abandoned broken feature of choice which nobody is gonna fix for years while CCP devotes to fixing nullsec and finish the ongoing shiny (V3).

And this is why nobody CCP is commenting on this hread.

look what they managed to pull out of their collective ass in just a few short weeks, a load of new ships, balancing, fixes and tech upgrades which hadnt been looked at in YEARS.

I think they were giving themselves the luxury of too much time in developing WIS. That much time makes you cautious, when whats needed are BOLD STEPS.

THe next big thing for CCP is the integration of DUST which should be fun. After that, lets talk incarna for real.

If DUST disappeared tomorrow I wouldn't notice. A significant amount of time in EVE is spent docked, peculiarly not spent playing a game on PS3 ... I wonder why not? Regardless, imagine people's surprise when they express a desire to expand EVE online in the form of Ambulation and they are called silly, because that is silly compared to expanding a PS3 game called DUST.

Pile of crap and distracts from gameplay