Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP already loves assfucking laser-boats in pvp, why not take away any ability for us to hold enemies down in a fight without them being at a third our optimal and therefore unhittable.

frakkin think man. not everyone uses ******* autocannons/blasters in pvp

How so...?

You wouldn't be able to fly anywhere near close to max speed with an MWD on at 3kms orbit. And yet the sig penalty would still be on.
MWD make you easier to hit on anything that doesn't have bonuses. Even AFs are easy to hit with MWDs.

Unless you factor in faloff penalty. Which isn't beating other ships in tracking - just staying out of range of their turrets. Which is what disruptors promote. Seeing as it's effective, easy and cheap on fitting and slot count.

I didn't say it would hurt turret performance. If anything, it would likely help it because, precisely as you say, there's no way to maintain a full speed orbit at those ranges with a MWD running: bloated signature + lower speed = more applied DPS.

Also, close-range MWDs aren't just about orbits: there are chases, fly-bys, etc. They'd have different tracking balance (likely favoring the turret) as well.

Also, as someone who has lost more than his fair share of kills because their target managed to get un-tackled, I strongly oppose anything to make tackle mods even weaker.

I'm not even going to read the rest of this thread. I'm just going to use your own quote against you.



Forget anything useful or constructive I had to say about your idea. You're just another a-hole who's pissed off because other people are individuals and don't see things your way. Welcome to the real world, bub. Real people live here, and we aren't YOU. Get off your ******* high horse and understand that other people are entitled to their opinions, which most certainly does NOT mean they are stupid. After all, everyone else gets along just fine with scrams and disruptors the way they are. YOU'RE the one who has a problem with them, which stems directly from your own inadaptability. Sounds to me like it's your attitude that needs revising, not the point mods.

Is this parody week? First we have a thread about how WCS are imbalanced and now we have a thread about how points are imbalanced for basically the same reasons.

That's not including the other parody threads we've seen.

And here I thought I'd hear about how disruptors are weak because of all the MJDs being added to game.

have to ask....are you a bought char or one who stayed in empire forever then just walked into bs and cap ops?


reason asking is well....this is usually where 0.0 noobs/lower sp start out. Either escorting big ships around. Or tackling ships. Bigger the better, its more fun. So you answered 4 right there....yes. Some players like me go why do I have to need intel/scouts to move a BS. Then we remember that killmail on a BS who did that same stupid crap and we tackled to have backup pop it. And we go oh yeah. Did you forget these times? Did you even have them in the first place? YOu had your fun running tackle long ago low sp...now its their turn.


5. wtf happened that the enemy frig tackled you in a dread? Story time....its got to be good one. This usually what hics do or dictor drive by's. . Did op get so bad for you all they saved isk/went "3rd string" and let the frigates fly. Not saying frigates are crap....I like them a lot actually. BUt when you really want to run a train on a cap fleet you tend to splurge on the dic/hic pressure to make sure it happens real good.

Ok, this is a troll thread, right?

If you can not fly a capital ship, you come and bash on those who can?

What a man this is