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Maethilar

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 31

#21 - 2014-10-09 02:27:01 UTC

So I want to give the RS a try, most of my fit comes with a CPU problem, fitting the ship has been proven to be very hard, CPU wise. So take a look at my fit, what do you think? Suggestions are welcome.

[Rattlesnake, LVL4 PVE]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Garde II x2
Curator II x2
Hobgoblin II x5
Gecko x1

Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-601

The idea is to keep the ship as cheap as possible, due to the gankers. The back eagle is there because I already have one from de gallente epic arc, and the booster because of the additional tank. The MWD works like a panic button if things get wrong.
Its not cap stable, but has around 3 minutes what I think its enough, the implant is necessary since without it you cant keep the fit this way.

Stats:
1240 DPS (538 from missiles + 702 from drones) with Garde II (39 + 29.5 Km range)
1199 DPS (538 from missiles + 661 from drones) with Curator II (68 + 19.7 Km range)
1308 DPS (538 from missiles + 770 from drones) with Gecko

Tank:
412.5 vs Sansha
415.2 vs Blood
596 vs Guristas
535.2 vs Serpentis
444.4 vs Angels

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Altair Taurus Likes received: 50	#22 - 2014-10-10 20:59:26 UTC After long considerations I've decided to choose Nightmare over Machariel and Vindicator. It requires additional skilling, moving to Amarr space or setting up jump-clone there but never mind - Tachyon lasers are very fun against Sansha's!

Elsa Hayes

Science and Trade Institute

Caldari State

Likes received: 109

#23 - 2014-10-10 21:54:01 UTC | Edited by: Elsa Hayes

Maethilar wrote:

If you use the MJD you will be out of effective range for most of your drones most of the time unless you manage to calculate your MJD landing point precise enough. If you want to go brawling style and tank and spank I suggest a Rapid Heavy Missile setup with a MWD and some tank. (reload sucks but damage projection is a lot better than cruise)

If you want to use Cruise and use the MJD do shoot from range, I suggest to add a third omni link and extend your drone control range. On the other hand you can then run it with a minimal tank.

I have less than optimal missile skills but my RS does ~1100 DPS @108km optimum (+83km fall off Lol

) with Wardens II. It depends on your personal taste.

Arcos Vandymion

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 105

#24 - 2014-10-11 09:47:43 UTC | Edited by: Arcos Vandymion

That Rattle looks pretty good - I'd suggest upgrading the damagemods or tank though instead of the DLA if you have CPU problems. Reason being that more damage or more tank is more useful than a 2 kilometres more controll range.

I'd switch the rigs to double rigor/flare or double rigor/drone controll range. Latter givesthe bigger application bonus.

[Rattlesnake, Kronos Optimal L4 cheapened]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Fits like that. Upgrading the SeBo sends it over CPU so you'll need to start upgrading the remaining damagemods (16tf saved on the BCUs, 10 on the DDAs) and the tank (15 tf from T2 to Pith-C). Then you can upgrade the DLA to T2 as well or use the overrated BE one.

938m ISK, cheaper than an empty Marauder hull.

Things to consider:
Inferno Fury all the way - at Guided Missile Precision V, a RFTP or a Meta4 TP on the target and two Rigors you should still apply most dameg to cruiser sized targets. Never shoot anything below that with your missiles - use sentries for that.
Thermal damage applies best across the board, while it's not the primary weakness it is more often than not the secondary (Sansha, Blood, Gurista, Serpentis, EoM).
Faction Sentries, while only dealing T1 Sentry damage, have T2 range and twice their Armor and Shield at 2/3rd of their (T2 sentry) hull. While you allready get insane boni to the HP of your drones nearly doubling that AGAIN should allow you to kill stuff before the sentries can die removing need to pull them in to get aggro on your hull. Unlike a Domi which can easily field two DLAs, a large remote armor repairer and three turrets the Rattle has no room for RR.

Altair Taurus

Likes received: 50

#25 - 2014-10-11 11:25:23 UTC | Edited by: Altair Taurus

Hi, there!

I have some fitting problems with my newly acquired Nightmare. More precisely I do not know how to get best possible combination of raw and applied damage. Nightmare has tracking speed bonus so maybe 1x TE + 1x TC would be enough in most situations or I should better fit 1x TE + 2x TC to get amazing range and tracking speeds? Let's assume my Nightmare will have about 900 laser DPS raw damage for a time being.

Besides I am not sure if Nightmare is rather sniper or brawler? At what distance should Nightmare fire at Sansha's vessels?

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