Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Moon mining and reactions should be available in high sec; granted in lesser quantity , similar to how planetary resources are concentrated more in lower security space. Also... Hi sec POS owners should be able to utilize reactors... Why not let them buy moon goo from the market and make different reactions .

IMO, CCP needs to develop better more emersive ways to give newbies and high sec individuals better ways to make more ISK. Key word here is Individuals. Right now the only way to play the game and focus on PVP is by being an alliance lemming and grinding with multiple accounts. It's insane. I started back in 2010. I bought my first Hulk for well under a hundred million. Battle cruisers were 30mil at most.

When people need three four or seven accounts to grind enough isk to have any ounce of fun for such brief moments then something is drastically wrong.

Focus on the fun and success of the individual pilot. When individuals can make more isk they won't be so afraid of losing a ship and you will see more solo and small gang pvp come back, and more people taking risk in low and null.

The income in highsec is fine and should not be getting higher, i mean come on when i hit you once you will get protected by concord, if a want you to shoot i have to pay for a war and you still can dock and wait.

If th income in High would too low the people would start moving to low/0.0/wh but they don´t so the income is okay.

A short question the bigger allianzes don´t get the space for free, they had to claim it and defend it. If you/other people want to claim this go form an alliance and start to conquer the sytems but please don´t start to beg CCP so they give you something which your to weak to claim.

All renter contracts include that the valuable moon mining spots are not available this would not change.

@ Moonmining in Highsec : There are so much things you can do in highsec, you don´t need to do everything there, to many players stay in highsec, because the income/risk is most times better than in any other space.

I would be fine if you could produce supers/titans in non Sov Systems to give new 0.0 allianzes a chance to start an real attack against an older coalition.

I disagree, only because I personally believe moon mining needs to die. The moons should all dry up and you should have to find new moon ore in belts. Thus making moon mining an active activity and not a passive activity.

This would be a good area for the pos/rorq revamp. But shuffling? no. Because once the large blocks find the new moons and resettle we are right back to square one. They should be in belts with the ability to get all the t2 stuff you in in a constanalation. Thus making the need to own huge swath of space moot.

Actually, as a short term conflict driver. It'll work along side Power Projection nerfs. It'll bring much needed conflict and content to a desolate area of the game.

Once the blocs find the new moons, they have to shuffle all their assets around. It'll be harder to straight up invade another region. (See Fountain War.) Whilest defending their own...

With a lot of empty systems, you'll see a lot of smaller guys go out and start scanning the desolate areas of the game where a golden nugget might be hiding. With the Power Blocs split up and everyone invading everything. It'll be a long time before the dust settles!

Once they find the new moons?? How would they do that? Constantly patrol and scan all moons everywhere??? That's the beauty of moon goo moving around. Eve is too big to keep track. The best they could do is put in the rental agreement that all moons must be scanned x times / week and results reported back to big daddy.

Anyone who found a valuable moon and reported it would be fool. Just lie and reap the profits. There's no way they could track them all.... roll the dice baby and roll in the isk.

It goes without saying that moving goo around would only be effective if it was immune to data dumps and api stuff. CCP would have to have the right folks guard dogging the info.

In itself it won't solve anything, but taking away a passive isk stream that has been monopolized by a few for quite some time is deffo a step in the correct direction.

Once the moons get shuffled around...(again) they ALL have to be scanned. One by one, which takes time. Other entities will know this too, so now you'll have smaller entities invading bigger ones on multiple fronts. Renters will become greedy and tell their landlords to **** off!

At first it'll create a massive conflict driver and massive amounts of content for a large portion of the game. But something like this would be the most realistic solution, it'll keep everyone busy until CCP gets around to releasing the long term solution...

So, People know about how often it is request to change the Technetium Moon goos so they are move diverse locations. I swear there was a player blog I saw that showed the distributions to be terrible.

Edit, blog found

If anything rarer moons should be moved near lowsec so that it is easier for more people to attack them. Especially with the jump changes

Agreed. Totally.

Last years Moon Goo shuffle, saw large Alliances pay members for scanning moons. Once the moons were scanned out and Fountain was the Golden Nugget, the entire CFC force went down to take it for themselves. Even Mittens said the reason for the invasion was because they depended on the income they provided. If that happens again, any Alliance would think twice about launching an invasion to another region with no way to Insta teleport back to defend their home Region.

If renters find a Golden nugget, they'll likely keep their mouth shut! If they get caught lying, see point above. (The one about launching an invasion to another Region and not having the ability to instantly teleport back.)

And yes, directly because of this, borders will shift...alliances will buckle...wars will be fought...but it'll be on Hard Mode!

Also...if it wasn't worth the Devs time, then why was it done last year?

Don't take CEO announcements at face value. There was alot more going on there than just moon goo and the riches it brings.

As for the rest you aren't thinking things clearly. Suppose I hold say, 10 systems and have 200 moons. Lets say the chances of getting a money moon is 1% with your new system. Now lets say I currently have 2 money moons and then they re-shuffle. A priori I'd expect to have 2 money moons. The chances of not getting any money moons is 0.13398. So yeah, kinda bad looking. Now, lets consider a coalition that has lets say 620 systems with say...9,300 moons. Now what is the chance of getting no money moons? 2.55452E-41. To understand how small that number is, write to a zero, then a decimal point, then 41 more zeroes....

With that many moons hte law of large numbers will kick in. That means my expectation of 930 money moons is probably going to be spot on.

Given this the large coalitions will be able to rest comfortably knowing they'll still have money moons in their vast swaths of space. Yes, having people run around scanning will become a new job, but so what when you have a big coalition you'll be able to find the people. And in terms of how things work, nothing is saying the current models that alliances and coaltions use have to stay that way.

Ask yourself, if this change went into effect how would I, if I were a coalition leader change things up to adapt to the change? Try to shoot down your own idea.

Note: The numbers above are not meant to be exact or something I'd recommend, they are for illustrative purposes.