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Vagabond Defensive Bonus
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Veinnail
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-06 14:50:43 UTC
Can we have another pass at the shield bonus the Vagabond has.


I understand that we try to stay consistent with thematic design. Though, for it to active tank, it needs more love.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#2 - 2014-10-06 15:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
Not too long ago, the Vagabond was a prefectly viable ship.
It then got changed to be the exact same ship PLUS a tank bonus.

You don't need to utilize it. But you can if you want.

And maybe don't use oversized modules. Just sayin'.


Edit: It's projectiles that need a dash of love to be competitive, not the hulls.
Sigras
Conglomo
#3 - 2014-10-06 20:34:31 UTC
projectiles are fine... they have damage projection, damage selection and cap free firing...

given the option of vagabond or deimos, i'd still take the vagabond.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#4 - 2014-10-06 20:43:27 UTC
Sigras wrote:
projectiles are fine... they have damage projection, damage selection and cap free firing...

given the option of vagabond or deimos, i'd still take the vagabond.

And then you would die to Deimos because he can tank you all day while you try to kill him with your so called "projection," and then he will kill you if you try to kill him with your "selectable" damage types.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Sigras
Conglomo
#5 - 2014-10-06 20:52:35 UTC
your vagabond should be around 25% faster than the deimos... if you EVER die to it that's your fault.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#6 - 2014-10-06 20:55:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
Sigras wrote:
your vagabond should be around 25% faster than the deimos... if you EVER die to it that's your fault.



25% faster at speeds around 2km/s with point ranges being roughly 10 kilometres between 'OH GOD I DROPPED IT' and 'OH JEEEEESUS HOW THE HELL DID I GET WEBBED AND SCRAMMED' are basically telling a story of 'How the hell am i supposed to keep this Deimos tackled'.


Edit: Okay, this doesn't adress the projectile-weapons-are-bad point, but that just makes things worse!
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-10-06 22:23:03 UTC
The funny thing is a Vagabond could probably out-brawl a Deimos if fit for it. ACs with RF Fusion do more DPS to a Deimos than its blasters can shoot back with.