EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi All,

Just started playing (less than week), done the tutorials, played around with mining in a Venture, done some level 1 missions in an Atron, thinking of doing the epic arc but not sure yet. (do I need better combat ships than Atron/Catalyst?)

I've worked out that mining in a Venture gives me about 1-2Mill / Hour which seems like a lot to me as I don't have much money. But I could be wasting my time?

Basically is there something that I definitely should be doing, while I slowly train up my skills to be able to use better ships and better gear.

I think I'd like to get into mining (hence the Venture and some mining levels). But to break it up I've also been picking skills to help with fighting and fitting.

I looked into implants and they seem expensive for the amount of money I have.

Thanks in advance, game is fun so far.

Head to Arnon IX - Moon 3 - Sisters of EVE Bureau, and talk to Sister Alitura, to start the SoE arc.

If you haven't already taken to mining, there's a pretty good chance you won't. It's one of those love-it-or-hate-it professions where there's no real in-between.

Instead, look into Planetary Interaction.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Planetary_Interaction
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Planetary_interaction

Planetary Interaction (PI) is a rather passive form of income, and it isn't great income, but it will probably be more than you'll need as a new player (for a while, at least). There are a few skills that you'll need to get it working, though:

Science IV
Remote Sensing III
Planetology III
Command Center Upgrades III
Interplanetary Consolidation IV
Trade IV
Customs Code Expertise IV
Gallente Industrial I
Hull Upgrades II
Afterburner III
High Speed Maneuvering I

If you haven't trained any of these skills, yet, they'll take between six and ten days, depending on your remaps and implants, and will cost 6m ISK in total:

Without remaps or implants: 10 days, 6 hours
...with remaps only: 8 days, 17 hours
...with +3 implants only: 8 days, 21 hours
...with +5 implants only: 8 days, 4 hours
...with remaps and +3 implants: 7 days, 9 hours
...with remaps and +5 implants: 6 days, 14 hours

You don't need to worry too much about doing a remap or getting implants special for this, I just tossed all those extra times in there for information's sake.

This plan will allow you to set up a total of five planets, each capable of running a basic P2 commodities set-up. You can find more info on the planets available at http://eveplanets.com/, including what you can build on them. I would recommend you find a T2 product for the set-up I'm recommending (though be warned that Gas planets have a HUGE radius, which makes things a bit more complicated, so I recommend avoiding Gas planets until you understand PI a bit more).

You'll have two each of your Basic factories making the each of the T1 products, and those T1 products both feed into your two Advanced structures. Pay special attention to the two Wiki links above in regards to routing! If you don't route product, it won't be refined (and you risk losing it entirely, if you don't route it out of your extractors)!

Set up a launch pad, and around it, set up four Basic Industry Facilities, two Advanced Industry Facilties, and two Extractor Control Units. You’ll be able to run three Extractor Heads from each Extractor Control Unit. This is a screenshot of one of my own planets: http://puu.sh/bZOf4/1d17a4c873.jpg

Top and center is my command center. It doesn't need to be connected to the rest of your colony, but you'll need to upgrade it nonetheless to fit all of the structures. When you left-click it, this little box pops up: http://puu.sh/bZOko/21f3abc24c.jpg

In the lower-left corner of the box is a circle with a green plus box. That's the upgrade menu. Take it as high as your skills with the above plan will go (which should be level 4).

Now, in the middle of colony will be a Launch Pad. You'll want to make it the central base because it has a good amount of storage, and will function as both the central hub for your planet, as well as the way you'll get your product off the planet.

Around your Launch Pad should be four Basic Industry structures, two Advanced Industry structures, and the two Extractors. With your Command Center upgraded to Level 4, you can run three extractor heads from each extractor.

Anyway, with the above skills, this plan will lower the NPC Tax on Customs Offices from an extra 5% to 1% (but will not affect the player-set tax), and will give you access to the Epithal, T2 Inertia Stabilizers and T2 Nanofiber Internal Structures to help reduce the to-warp align time your ship has, as well as fit Cargohold Expanders to increase your standard cargohold above the 1k m3 need to carry a Command Center.

Additionally, you’re capable of fitting a T1 10MN MWD to assist in closing the distance between Customs Offices, Warp Gates, or Stations, in case you land outside of the 2500 meter activation range.

There are two major drawbacks in this plan:

Firstly, you don’t have a Cloak available, so you’ll be very vulnerable while setting up your planets and you won’t be able to use a Cloak+MWD trick to escape a gate camp. Because of this, it’s advised to only use this skill plan if you intend to only set up planets in High Security space. You can add the skills for a cloak if you choose to do so, but again, for your first planet or two, I would STRONGLY recommend doing it in highsec so you can figure out PI a bit before committing yourself too deeply into it. Lowsec is great for PI, but the "learning experiences" the local pirates offer are more PvP-oriented than planetary colonization :) (that being said, the local pirates are probably decent fellows, as most lowsec'ers are, so don't be afraid to stop by and say hello!)

Secondly, your resource map on your planets will be fairly inaccurate, and you may have difficulties finding the optimal location to set up your base and extractor heads. This is another reason to start in highsec, as the resources aren't overly-great to begin with, and will be a great learning experience.

You can improve your map's accuracy by training Planetology to IV and Advanced Planetology to III, though going above that has greatly-diminishing returns and will very rarely be worth the training time.

Anyway, I hope this helps you a bit in regards to finding a better source of ISK. If you're interested in PvP, check out some cheap PvP ships and venture into lowsec :)

For some fun, cheap PvP frigs, check out this article at The Mittani: http://themittani.com/features/pvp-everyone-derp-frig

If you prefer other PvP frigs, don't be afraid to fit them up with T1 or cheap meta mods. Blowing up is a fun learning process.

Good luck, and fly safe!

Thanks all, I'll go do the SoE arc I think next. By the time I'm done with that should have a better idea.

I have found that I like both mining and missions so far. Found a random agent that seems to give lots of isk for pretty short missions. So I'll leave a combat ship there, to come back to if I feel like doing something different.

Planetary Interaction I'm not sure about, maybe something to look into later.

Oops, sorry about that. Rereading things in the morning, yeah, I see you didn't actually say you weren't enjoying it, as I thought you had said. I'll leave my post unchanged for the moment, though (my shame at not reading shall be a burden I'll bear until SHINY! *pounces*)

Anyway, PI is a bit confusing at first, and it takes a bit of time to first get set up, but after that, you only have to interact with it about five minutes a day, or a bit longer when you want to export your product to market. It's probably the most passive form of income in the game (though one may give consideration to AFK'ers as being more passive).

Consider looking for a corp to join once you are familiar with the basics. There are plenty of corporations out there which are new player friendly for a variety of "professions" ranging from hardcore miners to casual PvPers and vice versa. If you find an activity boring, drop it and try something else.

Above all, don't wait for your skills to have fun. This is why I suggest joining a corporation. Having friends to fly with can significantly reduce the burden of low skill points, not to mention you will have people to help you learn different aspects of the game. So you like mining ? A corp with dedicated boosting pilots can significantly increase your yield, even in a Venture. Or you want to PvP? Flying a tackle frigate (grabs targets and holds them for the fleet) is an essential job that you can do with less than a day of training, whereas it could be months before you can effectively fight things solo.

Also, Welcome to EVE.

If you've done the tutorial missions, head out and try exploration in hi sec. When you get a decent hit rate and have wrapped your head around the process, head out to lowsec. Don't be afraid of dying out there, just take it as something that's going to happen eventually. Make contact with the locals (even just saying "hello" in local is a decent way to start). Learn what sorts of traps they set up for explorers. Have fun.

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What he told you could do in game however, most certainly is....
That's one of the beauties of EvE, choose your own path. And now you have been given good and sound advice in the above posts I would say, try it all out and choose the play style of your liking. Success!

Not to be totally shameless, but here's a guide I wrote for new players about how to scavenge drones for a good profit.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=377536

Great way to try exploration and practice scanning skills. Those will get you into almost any community you want to go in. See if its for you. Might not be, but this way you'll profit while you try it.

Best of luck, and if you need advice, I'm a mail away.

*explorer signing off*