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WILLY TROPICAL
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-10-03 13:50:29 UTC
You look butthurt my friend. Are you tired of running sister missions? Why don't you rent for yourself a system with a nice beach view and run some awesome naval shipyards? You could be selling pirate ships instead of buying them like the random high seccer! Can you imagine it?
runeblader
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-10-03 14:52:42 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:

First lets forget the amount it costs to fully upgrade system and everything that goes into it.

Lets say for argument sakes a null sec system on average give out 1 billion isk per day in NPC kills.

So 100 mil per day for 10 guys. How long do you think it will take 10 guys to clear out 1 system of every anon and complex in 1 system?


I'll accept that as a "example" however we both know it's a lot higher than that per person, would not take all 10 that long, except sites keep spawning, and where the system MIGHT support just 10 guys, there's plenty of other systems right next door to said "ratting system with maxed upgrades" Hell I've ratted in others ALWAYS EMPTY sov systems before now, just me 1 char nothing else and brought the NPC index upto 3 within a week and thats ONE person running anoms, they started out as just having crappy sites in but got better BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WAS IN USE

Prince Kobol wrote:
How many people in null sec? How many systems?
As you can plainly see there is nowhere near enough sites in null sec to support its population. Not even close.


BS, how many dead claimed sov systems are out there that NEVER get used regardless of how close to the ideal "true sec" it is, anything above 0.28 the blocks QQ and say "this space is worthless to our line members" and thats just ignoring the cosmic sites that spawn ON TOP OF the anoms that spawn, so frankly cut the C***

Prince Kobol wrote:

Why fly between system after system running crappy sites that have a very low isk per hour ratio always on the look for enemies when you can just have alt running as many mission as you can stand in high sec with little to no risk.
Even better just run Incursions in High Sec with just as little risk but even more isk.


Crappy sites? when things like pith A-Type adaptive invulns as one example drop in sites like 10/10's etc nevermind the mach, rattlesnake bpcs etc that also drop, if your refering to the anoms see my previous answer above, also I also took a "crappy system with crappy anom sites" in it and turned it into a decent system after ratting solo in it for a couple of weeks, hell I even paid for out of my own pocket for the Lvl 3 upgrades, and paid a alliance mate to jump it into the system to be installed, IE taking the TIME, EFFORT and ISK to help improve a system and thats ONE person doing that.

As for your example above, all your really showing is that the average line member of the sov blocks out there are:
Firstly: More risks adverse than mission runners, incursion runners and miners in HS
Secondly: that their also Lazy risk adverse scrub carebares who are also Hippocrites when they poor scorn on people who LIVE in HS, which seems to be more than the null lot are doing, nevermind they keep repeating "we dont need hs...."

as for this "always on the look for enemies" its NULL SEC, it's what your supposed to do, your also SUPPOSED to work with others because your in that thing called a ALLIANCE which is MENT TO BE a collection of players WORKING TOGETHER, not EVERY PERSON FOR THEMSELVES it's what your supposed to do and WHY you have intel channels, basicly what your saying is they shouldn't work together, shouldn't spread out and have MORE intel eyes around to warn others, ie LET SOME OTHER POOR SOD TAKE ALL THE RISKS WHILE I SIT IN THIS SYSTEM IN THE CENTER NICE AND SAFE MAKING ISK AND F*** THE REST OF MY ALLIANCE MATES?
It's also what people living in LS and WH's have to do, and WH's is harder as you DO NOT have a local to show you when someone else comes in....

so it still boils down to you stating and saying that people living in sov null whether it's in the NW or the SE are Lazy risk adverse selfish Hippocrite carebears with delusions of being "PvPers"?
Prince Kobol
#23 - 2014-10-03 15:03:37 UTC
runeblader wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

First lets forget the amount it costs to fully upgrade system and everything that goes into it.

Lets say for argument sakes a null sec system on average give out 1 billion isk per day in NPC kills.

So 100 mil per day for 10 guys. How long do you think it will take 10 guys to clear out 1 system of every anon and complex in 1 system?


I'll accept that as a "example" however we both know it's a lot higher than that per person, would not take all 10 that long, except sites keep spawning, and where the system MIGHT support just 10 guys, there's plenty of other systems right next door to said "ratting system with maxed upgrades" Hell I've ratted in others ALWAYS EMPTY sov systems before now, just me 1 char nothing else and brought the NPC index upto 3 within a week and thats ONE person running anoms, they started out as just having crappy sites in but got better BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WAS IN USE

Prince Kobol wrote:
How many people in null sec? How many systems?
As you can plainly see there is nowhere near enough sites in null sec to support its population. Not even close.


BS, how many dead claimed sov systems are out there that NEVER get used regardless of how close to the ideal "true sec" it is, anything above 0.28 the blocks QQ and say "this space is worthless to our line members" and thats just ignoring the cosmic sites that spawn ON TOP OF the anoms that spawn, so frankly cut the C***

Prince Kobol wrote:

Why fly between system after system running crappy sites that have a very low isk per hour ratio always on the look for enemies when you can just have alt running as many mission as you can stand in high sec with little to no risk.
Even better just run Incursions in High Sec with just as little risk but even more isk.


Crappy sites? when things like pith A-Type adaptive invulns as one example drop in sites like 10/10's etc nevermind the mach, rattlesnake bpcs etc that also drop, if your refering to the anoms see my previous answer above, also I also took a "crappy system with crappy anom sites" in it and turned it into a decent system after ratting solo in it for a couple of weeks, hell I even paid for out of my own pocket for the Lvl 3 upgrades, and paid a alliance mate to jump it into the system to be installed, IE taking the TIME, EFFORT and ISK to help improve a system and thats ONE person doing that.

As for your example above, all your really showing is that the average line member of the sov blocks out there are:
Firstly: More risks adverse than mission runners, incursion runners and miners in HS
Secondly: that their also Lazy risk adverse scrub carebares who are also Hippocrites when they poor scorn on people who LIVE in HS, which seems to be more than the null lot are doing, nevermind they keep repeating "we dont need hs...."

as for this "always on the look for enemies" its NULL SEC, it's what your supposed to do, your also SUPPOSED to work with others because your in that thing called a ALLIANCE which is MENT TO BE a collection of players WORKING TOGETHER, not EVERY PERSON FOR THEMSELVES it's what your supposed to do and WHY you have intel channels, basicly what your saying is they shouldn't work together, shouldn't spread out and have MORE intel eyes around to warn others, ie LET SOME OTHER POOR SOD TAKE ALL THE RISKS WHILE I SIT IN THIS SYSTEM IN THE CENTER NICE AND SAFE MAKING ISK AND F*** THE REST OF MY ALLIANCE MATES?
It's also what people living in LS and WH's have to do, and WH's is harder as you DO NOT have a local to show you when someone else comes in....

so it still boils down to you stating and saying that people living in sov null whether it's in the NW or the SE are Lazy risk adverse selfish Hippocrite carebears with delusions of being "PvPers"?



Well you can scream as much as you like but you are wrong on so many levels I can only surmise that you do not want a proper conversion but just to troll so I shall leave you to it
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#24 - 2014-10-03 15:07:17 UTC
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