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I'm starting to finally understand...

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S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-10-02 13:19:44 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
S'Way wrote:
The whole idea behind EvE originally was a "cold harsh universe" where losses actually meant something.
If the game ever removed penalties for losing ships then it wouldn't be EvE and there'd be mass unsubs.

If you're finding losing ships too costly, join a corp with a ship replacement program (flying some ships like logi with insurance it's sometimes possible to even make a small profit on each loss).

Cognitive dissonance...

A cold harsh universe where losses... mean that you have to get a code from your FC to log the loss because otherwise it might be meaningful.

Not at all, the loss still has to be paid for by the corp / alliance in the end. Lose enough ships and that replacement plan can't be afforded anymore.

What I find amusing is the OP claims to have spent mostly 3 years doing industry yet doesn't seem to have considered how the idea of respawning lost ships (as they suggested) would impact industry drastically and the snowball effect it would have on the economy.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#22 - 2014-10-02 13:21:30 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
I want to make a SINCERE suggestion for Eve, so please read on;

I have played Eve for over 3 years and during that time have engaged mostly in Industry, I would've loved to get into pvp more but the harshness of Eve prevented me; ie;

If I lost a ship in pvp, it was regularly due to a blob of 50 of them to 1, then I'd have to spend a few hours mining for a new ship, then just mining for plex, cos why would I mine for a ship if Im just gonna lose it in 1.5 seconds??


Then I started to think why am I mining for plex: to get more game time, so I can mine more for more plex, and the vicious cycle continues...

Joined many corps, but you usually just hear curse words and in-fighting through comms all day long so whats the point.

Ive recently started playing Planet Side 2, when you die you respawn albeit usually in a place further away from where I engaged in pvp, I dont lose expensive items, I get back into it and am actually having FUN playing a video game EVERY time I log in,

I am actually throwing real money at the PS2 Devs for better items, cos the game is FUN, I have more fun in one session of PS2 then in 3 years in EVE! Although I aint leaving Eve, Im playing rarely now, and prolly wont renew my subscription in 3 months.

TLDR, If you lose valuable items in Eve in Pvp (including cheap ships, lose enough of them, and losing becomes expensive) people are just naturally not going to want to Pvp, and leave the game, Its whats happening , just look and the falling sub numbers on server graphs, make losing LESS PUNISHING in Eve is my SINCERE suggestion, Maybe respawn a ship 2-3 times before you actually lose it.


People have been losing stuff in EVE for 11 years and it grew year after year. The game is safer now than ever. Result, no growth.

That should tell you something.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#23 - 2014-10-02 13:22:48 UTC
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5. Trolling is prohibited.

Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.


This looks like a troll. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few trolls in my time. Locked.

If you're serious about proposing this, please re-post it in the Features & Ideas Discussion subforum, preferably with substantial details on how you would like item loss to be mitigated.

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