Intergalactic Summit

Highly speculative, at best. Unless you have sources to back up your statements, for which I would really be interested to know. It has been 3 years now the war is declared and we still are unable to access proper sources of information of what is going on planetside.

I have always admired your propensity for challenging perspectives and things taken for granted, Ston. I admit that your words give me reason to pause and examine my own convictions.

It is at this time, however, that I recall what I am fighting for and why. My crews understand why they are fighting alongside me and even should I stand beside them, never to breathe again, I would continue to fight for what I am fighting for now. That is one definition of what it means to have convictions and beliefs that supersede the self.

That does not mean all things are worth such a stance, there is wisdom in knowing which hills to die on and which to surrender.

I try avoid these discussions because they usually degenerate into people screaming pointlessly past each other, but for once this seems civil and an actual dialog of sorts.

I might ruin that, but I am going to cherry-pick a few quotes from several of your statements, pilot Goldcore:

You say that you are willing to take control of Minmatar systems in order to make the Empire safe, and you describe fighting in traditionally Minmatar space like Ebolfer as a defensive action. So how far do your definitions of "defend" and "safe" reach? Should we fear the arrival of your convictions and your pulse lasers over the skies of Hek someday? Rens? Matar itself? All of those are far more strategic to protecting the Empire from Minmatar aggression than an underdeveloped 2-station system like Ebolfer.

I'm not trying to provoke you, but your well-spoken pragmatism seems just as dangerous as any fanatic slaver would be.

While the 24th does not pilot Sigils and hunt for slaves, do you really think that slave traders are far behind? Would you personally shoot down a licensed Imperial slave trader in contested space? What about an unlicensed but devout industrialist that was providing services and support to the Empire and the 24th? Those sorts have been busy raiding the Matari frontier for decades, and do you think that would change should you clear the skies of everyone but Amarrian ships?

I suppose that is something we can agree on... violence is often necessary. Perhaps the next step is for us to agree that slavery is often necessary in the pursuit of enlightenment, as is the way of God.

I'm afraid you and I would disagree on that point. That disagreement extends to a larger scale, which is the entire reason for this conflict. The Empire endorses slavery, and the Republic is opposed to it.

Edit for clarification.

My delusions? I merely put forth my opinion of how all empires have, how was it put "sinned"?

Of course, if your convictions have given you the belief that the Amarrian Empire has always acted without any wrongdoing, and has never "Sinned", then as a realist I question your comments further as to who really is the delusional one here.

For the above stressed statements, you've earned my Quoteworthy Award. Even if we disagree on which faction to support, I find you very wise.

I've kept my silence on your ramblings on the other thread, but I won't tolerate it here. You're own arrogance has peaked at such a point that you have no place commenting on the arrogance of others. I'd recommend leaving the Summit be for a while, perhaps taking a nice vacation to a calm, relaxing beach, and reading up on Gallente, Caldari and Amarrian history before spewing out baseless hate and pro-Federation mindless propaganda that frankly makes me embarrassed to be of the same race as you.

Well with that Jason Galente I'm beginning to think we are all starting to get along too well. Its good to see respect bloom in such a place as this.

Oh, I couldnt agree more... just who's way of life, exactly, now that seems to be the sticking point, hmm?