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And i can only agree on that being a _very_ good thing.

I'm just asking what the thought process is being the long cooldowns that is being added? - Is it to make the eve universe bigger, and entities more local?

I'm asking because i dont see the logic in having a cooldown days after a drop on someone/something.
The distances that can now be covered in a fair amount of time is extremely limited. This will effectively make caps defensive ships. This could be a good thing for the small entities that want to live in 0.0 - This is positive step towards that. Since you can no longer respond to aggresion as fast as before. - GOOD change, i love how this could shake up 0.0.

But it still ask the question; Why are "i" as a capital pilot being penalized for a jump i made days ago, possible months?


Regarding the black ops

I use black ops daily, mostly for pve content... It makes for interesting exploration vessels, if used correctly. This is now nerfed to the ground. - I'm confident i will find a way around that, but i'm sure i'm not the only one using the ship class in that regard. It might be to Niché to be considered worth investing developer time into, seeing as it's not what the ships are designed for.

But it wouldn't mind it being part of the part process... Since it's actually very viable at being something else than a pvp boat.


/fonac

Also, with the "people did T2 before jump freighters": many t2 ships date only from Red Moon Rising, when they introduced carriers. That is really not a good argument, t2 production as a serious thing instead of an odd niche has always had the ability to transfer goods too and from nullsec in large quantities.

I remember those times.... when Vagabonds, curses, ishtars, etc cost 500 mil and a T2 cloak was over 100 mil.

CCP really does like loosing money dont they? They manage to make a good game worste every patch, and as like half of eve if a single point of this gets implemented it will be the end, they did just find the straw that breaks the camels back.

I DEMAND 1000MN microwarp drives and Capital Micro Jump Drives now!

The worst part of this, is that probably most of EVE agrees that capital projection needed to be fixed and CCP still managed to enrage so many people.

* There's so many ways for this fix to be achieved but, in typical CCP fashion, they decided to use a hammer instead of a surgical tool. You can't and won't fix the problems in EVE in a few piece-meal fixes. You need to take your time on this and really think about it. A token meeting with CSM idiots and a round table in Iceland isn't enough. Eve is organic and CCP loves to advertise it as a sandbox. Well, that sandbox has many variables and dynamics that will be affected here. Many of which are welcome but many are not. However, they needed to be accounted for and weighed appropriately.

* I guess what bothers me is CCP's approach. There are certain things that are not working well in this game. (Cap Projection ofc/null stagnation/Sov Mechanics/Actual utility of Sov/Conflict Drivers/Supers/)... I believe these are all interwoven and need to be addressed together.

* I don't think a half-assed dev blog proceeded by a meeting or two the month before adequately shows me, as a CCP customer, that you've put the proper thought, testing, and brainstorming into this that I would expect from a company i'm investing in. That's disheartening and I think the rough nature of this blog is where much of the animosity from the user base stems from. Various departments need to scour ideas and fixes and CCP needs to spends months trying to understand how these are going to fit together for a further of EVE online while still intriguing existing and new customers. Not only do these departments need to have a variety of alternatives available to balance their area, but these need to be discussed and gone over en mass BEFORE sweeping changes are implemented.

* I do think some of the changes can be worked. A Jump timer + "fatigue" of SOME sort can work, but does CCP really believe this current mechanism is the best choice? Have a 3 minute timer, then a 6 minute timer for two successive jumps if jumped again within 30 minutes, then a 10 minute timer and it at 10 minutes for every subsequent jump thereafter. You could implement fatigue which reduces the efficacy of weapon systems. In other words, You'll be able to still jump long distances and technically move across EVE if you wait out your timers, but the fatigue can implement a negative weapons bonus to negate your ability to use drones/defensive mods/doomsdays/gunnery etc. You can have a base to where after 4 consecutive jumps, you can't use weapon systems/defensive systems for 3 hours or so. The negative weapons bonus would affect your skills irrespective of whether you're still in a carrier or not. A jump timer coupled with a fatigue that stacks negative weapon bonuses, you neuter your opportunity to dogpile into fights(cause you'll be useless), you significantly reduce the ability to jump across EVE with the timer alone, but you'll still leave opportunity for hot drops/logistics. This would permit logistic capitals to be use effectively, but coupled with death clones, would nullify the ability of alliances to dogpile into large fights multiple regions away WITHOUT already having jump clones/ships or an alt in place in that area.

Note: I spent 5 minutes thinking up a more sound alternative that would probably infuriate many less people.


* PS: Don't let capitals go through gates. FFS that just sounds stupid. It will look stupid. it's antithetical to capitals and how we've all known them. I get that changes are necessary, but if you're going to keep some form of jump, make it a necessary and not optional. There are already discussions of nano-nig gangs and its going to be stupid.

Well, this explains a few things about the jump spawn distance change in w-space.

im making a trial account when i get home his sole purpose will be to train to sit in caps then move to my alt account get fatigue and move my caps around from null to low then he can sit till i use caps again i normally use sub caps so this will work. I only want 2 active accounts no need for 3

This is awesome.

What a shame people can't adapt and instead just whine and complain.

Change is good. It's a broken system and you all know it. Sometimes change hurts.


Time to dust off the lowsec caps. \o/

Reported. We already have a thread for these kinds of things.

So, more Alts Online. Don't have six accounts to make living in null-sec bearable? GTFO. Fantastic.

I only have a single account. I've only ever had a single account. If, after these changes, I cannot literally keep up with those who have more, then I won't even have that.