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Nevil Oscillator
#1 - 2014-10-01 00:29:35 UTC
I understand some of the basics of war between corporations and alliances but there is a few fine points that I'm curious about.


If I was to war dec a corp with 50 members, it costs 50 mil but then the day after that a member joins that corp or 300 new members what would the situation be ?
Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-10-01 00:51:30 UTC
More targets

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Nevil Oscillator
#3 - 2014-10-01 01:01:43 UTC
Forest Archer wrote:
More targets



So members of the corp can leave and join the corp as they please thus leaving or joining the war ?
Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-10-01 01:08:33 UTC
There are some specific rules with corp alliance jumping but they have changed since I last did decing so I am not sure what they are, I do know if a corp leaves an alliance the dec will follow till the end of the week.

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Solecist Project
#5 - 2014-10-01 01:19:55 UTC
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.

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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-10-01 01:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Ugh
Solecist Project wrote:
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.

Beware the scam though.... imagine chasing a war target and you chase him to a station.... you all chat in local about who has the bigger ePenis . Pilot undocks... and you engage... concord blaps you.... GM says working as intended.

Pilot drops corp in station and either the overview doesn't notice (overview still shows wt and nothing in the logs) or you don't notice.
Nevil Oscillator
#7 - 2014-10-01 01:50:48 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.


Interesting, is there any restriction to joining an existing war ? other than the normal procedures for joining a corp ?
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#8 - 2014-10-01 09:02:58 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.


Interesting, is there any restriction to joining an existing war ? other than the normal procedures for joining a corp ?


The only restriction is that it can't be done in space - you can't sidle a gaggle of neutral Vindicators casually up to the enemy fleet and then have them join corp to get the drop on the other guys. They would need to dock up to join.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#9 - 2014-10-01 09:06:20 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
I understand some of the basics of war between corporations and alliances but there is a few fine points that I'm curious about.


If I was to war dec a corp with 50 members, it costs 50 mil but then the day after that a member joins that corp or 300 new members what would the situation be ?


Once you've paid for the week you get your war. If 1000 new members join your target corp then the new fees will be assessed when you try to pay continue the war for the next week.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-10-01 09:20:24 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
I understand some of the basics of war between corporations and alliances but there is a few fine points that I'm curious about.


If I was to war dec a corp with 50 members, it costs 50 mil but then the day after that a member joins that corp or 300 new members what would the situation be ?


You pay for a week of war in advance.

So if after paying for a week of war suddenly 5000 people join, it only means moar targets to shoot at.

When they have to pay for the next week of war, then all new members are used to calculate the next war-fee.

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Solecist Project
#11 - 2014-10-01 09:57:48 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Ugh
Solecist Project wrote:
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.

Beware the scam though.... imagine chasing a war target and you chase him to a station.... you all chat in local about who has the bigger ePenis . Pilot undocks... and you engage... concord blaps you.... GM says working as intended.

Pilot drops corp in station and either the overview doesn't notice (overview still shows wt and nothing in the logs) or you don't notice.

There should be no scam.
As soon as there's a session changed involved,
the other person should notice that he's not a WT anymore.

Besides that, being "green" is smart here and if there's a bug,
then CCP would notice that "hey ... green setting ... no WT .. hmm...."

And whoever doesn't notice ... well ... too bad. lol

Never heard of your case ever happening, btw,
unless people drop corp in space ... which brings a slap from the GMs.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2014-10-01 10:26:14 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Ugh
Solecist Project wrote:
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.

Beware the scam though.... imagine chasing a war target and you chase him to a station.... you all chat in local about who has the bigger ePenis . Pilot undocks... and you engage... concord blaps you.... GM says working as intended.

Pilot drops corp in station and either the overview doesn't notice (overview still shows wt and nothing in the logs) or you don't notice.

There should be no scam.
As soon as there's a session changed involved,
the other person should notice that he's not a WT anymore.

Besides that, being "green" is smart here and if there's a bug,
then CCP would notice that "hey ... green setting ... no WT .. hmm...."

And whoever doesn't notice ... well ... too bad. lol

Never heard of your case ever happening, btw,
unless people drop corp in space ... which brings a slap from the GMs.

You can't drop corp in space, and the only overview querk I'm aware of is with wars going live,
sometimes your client needs a session change to update target status if you are in system with the player in question I have a habit of reloging just to be certain.

I do not believe what Milan is discribing is common, it might just have been a standing related derp

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Solecist Project
#13 - 2014-10-01 10:48:34 UTC
Oh one can't even drop in space anymore?

I remember someone close to me said he did ...
... and got slapped by the GMs.

Odd, maybe longer ago than I thought.


Thanks for the heads up.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2014-10-01 11:05:52 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Oh one can't even drop in space anymore?

I remember someone close to me said he did ...
... and got slapped by the GMs.

Odd, maybe longer ago than I thought.


Thanks for the heads up.

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Nevil Oscillator
#15 - 2014-10-01 11:54:25 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:


The only restriction is that it can't be done in space - you can't sidle a gaggle of neutral Vindicators casually up to the enemy fleet and then have them join corp to get the drop on the other guys. They would need to dock up to join.



They have to be in station to do it but potentially you could start a battle with a war target and new members you were not aware of, sign up and turn up before it has finished. Actually I'm not sure how long it takes to sign up to a corp, doesn't the CEO have to be in station to accept the application also ?
Solecist Project
#16 - 2014-10-01 12:38:54 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com

Lots of answers there, too.
If you manage to feed yourself,
we all benefit from it.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2014-10-01 12:42:36 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com

Lots of answers there, too.
If you manage to feed yourself,
we all benefit from it.

even more here

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#18 - 2014-10-01 12:46:15 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:


The only restriction is that it can't be done in space - you can't sidle a gaggle of neutral Vindicators casually up to the enemy fleet and then have them join corp to get the drop on the other guys. They would need to dock up to join.



They have to be in station to do it but potentially you could start a battle with a war target and new members you were not aware of, sign up and turn up before it has finished. Actually I'm not sure how long it takes to sign up to a corp, doesn't the CEO have to be in station to accept the application also ?


I'm pretty sure that only the person being recruited needs to dock up. Anyone with recruiting roles should be able to accept an application in space. So yes, theoretically you could have a fleet fight occurring on a station and a bunch of neutrals could join corp, undock and administer facemeltings to your enemies. Provided that they aren't in a corp with roles or in corp stasis, the process only takes a few mouse clicks. I have heard rumors that CCP frowns on this tactic, but I'm not sure if there is any truth to them.

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Solecist Project
#19 - 2014-10-01 12:48:54 UTC
Bot...

CCP removed corp stasis with roles quite a while ago. For some reason some people still
seem to get the message about stasis, but even them are able to leave early on.

I tried this and it works. Not sure about the issue, but it's possible nowadays.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Marc Durant
#20 - 2014-10-01 12:55:17 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Ugh
Solecist Project wrote:
Nowadays, when a victim member drops out of a corp that is in war,
this then former member can not join the corp again for seven days.

Beware the scam though.... imagine chasing a war target and you chase him to a station.... you all chat in local about who has the bigger ePenis . Pilot undocks... and you engage... concord blaps you.... GM says working as intended.

Pilot drops corp in station and either the overview doesn't notice (overview still shows wt and nothing in the logs) or you don't notice.

There should be no scam.
As soon as there's a session changed involved,
the other person should notice that he's not a WT anymore.

Besides that, being "green" is smart here and if there's a bug,
then CCP would notice that "hey ... green setting ... no WT .. hmm...."

And whoever doesn't notice ... well ... too bad. lol

Never heard of your case ever happening, btw,
unless people drop corp in space ... which brings a slap from the GMs.


The problem is that since "show only WT" filter doesn't work (I wonder why that is, after all these years) you're going to have to set people to red to make up for that problem. It still isn't necessarily a problem if you have set the order right in your overview settings but still, it certainly isn't helping.

Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.
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