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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#21 - 2014-09-30 13:52:48 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...

F


Better mousetrap, and all that.

If someone could figure that kind of thing out with any certainty, they'd be Bill Gates rich in a few months.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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GreenSeed
#22 - 2014-09-30 13:53:25 UTC
we don't negotiate with terrorists.
Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-09-30 13:55:21 UTC
More like manifestation of a Vitamin D deficiency.

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Hendrick Kion
Slum Lords of Rage
Fraternity Auxiliary
#24 - 2014-09-30 13:59:39 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...

F


Appliances? Like what, a George Foreman Grill?
Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-09-30 13:59:59 UTC
Lucrii Dei wrote:
More like manifestation of a Vitamin D deficiency.

It's hilarious how people avoid the obvious, isn't it?
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MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
Pandemic Unicorns
#26 - 2014-09-30 14:00:01 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...


I'm curious too, but it sounds like they're very reluctant to give out any details (maybe makes it easier for attackers?).

In one of the other threads, I think CCP Explorer said something like (can't remember exact wording) they've had plenty attacks in the past, but players haven't seen any effect because their defences/methods coped with it.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#27 - 2014-09-30 14:02:06 UTC
Hendrick Kion wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...

F


Appliances? Like what, a George Foreman Grill?


For anyone who doesn't have a George Foreman Grill, get one. It is amazing, the only "As seen on TV" product I have ever encountered that lives up to the hype. Exceeds expectations in cooking, and relatively easy to clean as well.

Especially for chicken, OMG it's insane. Steak seasoning, a bit of cinammon sugar, cut it into cubes and cook that ****er up on the G.F., it rocks my socks.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-09-30 14:08:17 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hendrick Kion wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...

F


Appliances? Like what, a George Foreman Grill?


For anyone who doesn't have a George Foreman Grill, get one. It is amazing, the only "As seen on TV" product I have ever encountered that lives up to the hype. Exceeds expectations in cooking, and relatively easy to clean as well.

Especially for chicken, OMG it's insane. Steak seasoning, a bit of cinammon sugar, cut it into cubes and cook that ****er up on the G.F., it rocks my socks.


Speaking of rocking, I'm no engineer, but rock and roll doesn't seem like a solid foundation to be building a whole ******* city on.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#29 - 2014-09-30 14:10:25 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Speaking of rocking, I'm no engineer, but rock and roll doesn't seem like a solid foundation to be building a whole ******* city on.


Idk, they do have that Japanese anti earthquake architecture, where the building rolls and shifts around in order to dissipate the force of a tremor.

Rock and roll, as it were.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2014-09-30 14:11:50 UTC
Yes, but how well does it work against giant robots? I mean that IS the true test, no?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#31 - 2014-09-30 14:16:18 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Yes, but how well does it work against giant robots? I mean that IS the true test, no?


You have it mixed up, the giant robots belong to the Japanese, they use them to defend against the giant sea monsters.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-09-30 14:18:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Yes, but how well does it work against giant robots? I mean that IS the true test, no?


Derailing your alliance leader's thread like a BAWS. You got balls, mate.

Think of me when you're doing your will tonight, won't you? Blink

EDIT: In all fairness though, I agree with Feyd but, this isn't getting the case any momentum and this thread WILL no doubt be getting locked so...

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#33 - 2014-09-30 14:23:01 UTC
Ooooh! It's up. Time to make with the mischief. No derailment intended, my question was dead serious. Giant Killer Robots are a serious threat, as they cause massive collateral damage while fighting the giant sea monsters. Engineering is critical in these cases.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-09-30 14:27:25 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Ooooh! It's up. Time to make with the mischief. No derailment intended, my question was dead serious. Giant Killer Robots are a serious threat, as they cause massive collateral damage while fighting the giant sea monsters. Engineering is critical in these cases.


Well, like I said, I'm no engineer, and my experience with giant killer robots and sea monsters is even less than my experience with griffins and unicorns so.... I'm just gonna nod my head, grab another beer, and log into EVE.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2014-09-30 14:30:28 UTC
A wise course of action. Unicorns are basterds from what I've been told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9auOCbH5Ns4

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#36 - 2014-09-30 14:30:39 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
For anyone who doesn't have a George Foreman Grill, get one. It is amazing, the only "As seen on TV" product I have ever encountered that lives up to the hype. Exceeds expectations in cooking, and relatively easy to clean as well.

Especially for chicken, OMG it's insane. Steak seasoning, a bit of cinammon sugar, cut it into cubes and cook that ****er up on the G.F., it rocks my socks.


A solid Panini press is the original version of the GF, and often has more powerful heating elements and a heavier cooking plate (along with nice deep ridges so that cheese will ooze out of your sandwich and form these delicious browned crunchy fingers).

A while ago I got Maple Pepper from some family who'd visited Vermont. It's a mix of maple sugar, salt, pepper, and it is fantastic for everything... hmm, I think I only have one jar left. Time to chat up some family.

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...

F


Best defense against DDoSes is to have multiple physical locations for your servers. Which is what companies like Google do. Of course, I don't care which server serves my Google search, but I kind of care which server I'm playing EVE on.

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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#37 - 2014-09-30 14:33:41 UTC
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C C P Alliance
#38 - 2014-09-30 17:38:54 UTC
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?

I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...


I'm curious too, but it sounds like they're very reluctant to give out any details (maybe makes it easier for attackers?).

In one of the other threads, I think CCP Explorer said something like (can't remember exact wording) they've had plenty attacks in the past, but players haven't seen any effect because their defences/methods coped with it.
Look here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5058436#post5058446

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