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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#1 - 2014-09-30 00:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ocih
Write some code that allows people to contract, shift assets in Sov outposts to neutral/ NPC stations.

Make it a month long event, offering people a chance to pull assets out of places they can't get to.

It isn't something that would impact me but I have been down that road where my assets were sitting in places I couldn't get to and I know how demoralizing it is.

You could do it one of two ways. Offer all characters a token they pull from the redeem box on login and accept that they will become a commodity or make it a time stamped event where the feature simply goes away. Either one would get the job done but it would also offer you insight in to how many walk away due to tertiary damage from playing the Null game. I don't know if it would keep people here but I wager it would see many return for an opportunity like that.

- As pointed out, this isn't going to impact me but I have been there and I can tell you, 90% of me not being in Null right now is associated to the 2 year dotlan watch, waiting for the day I could pull my assets.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#2 - 2014-09-30 00:06:07 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Write some code that allows people to contract, shift assets in Sov outposts to neutral/ NPC stations.


It's called a Courier contract. Set it JF sized with a decent payout, set it to the group living there, and odds are it'll get done for you.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#3 - 2014-09-30 00:23:55 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Write some code that allows people to contract, shift assets in Sov outposts to neutral/ NPC stations.


It's called a Courier contract. Set it JF sized with a decent payout, set it to the group living there, and odds are it'll get done for you.


You can courier a fitted Archon sitting in an oupost? Even a single Battleship for that matter has a 500K M3 volume. I had 30 of them ready for action. I'm sure you envision some lucrative opportunity to milk people for billions based on misfortune but I'm also sure you will find most of the assets remain where they are.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2014-09-30 00:26:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
I see where you're going with this idea, but I don't think it will make much difference for subs.

I just don't think there are many people in the situation that could take advantage of it. On top of that, how are they even going to find out about an event in a game they've likely not thought about for a few years?

While I'd take advantage of it as I have assets that are unavailable to me right now in null, I'd not be resubbing a character to do it. And I doubt anyone else would bother to sub for a month to move some stuff that wouldn't likely be worth it, to be honest. How many people do you figure got caught with their pants down and left six capital ships parked in a now hostile station? Not many, I'd guess. Most likely people left some ammo and a few T1 hulls and fittings.

Mr Epeen Cool
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#5 - 2014-09-30 00:40:26 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I see where you're going with this idea, but I don't think it will make much difference for subs.

I just don't think there are many people in the situation that could take advantage of it. On top of that, how are they even going to find out about an event in a game they've likely not thought about for a few years?

While I'd take advantage of it as I have assets that are unavailable to me right now in null, I'd not be resubbing a character to do it. And I doubt anyone else would bother to sub for a month to move some stuff that wouldn't likely be worth it, to be honest. How many people do you figure got caught with their pants down and left six capital ships parked in a now hostile station? Not many, I'd guess. Most likely people left some ammo and a few T1 hulls and fittings.

Mr Epeen Cool


Most of it would be people who were away from EVE during an invasion and I would expect it's higher than either of us might think after ten years. They would need to promote the event and if enough people came on just to pull assets, they could repeat it in a year.

Hitting the contracts with a few thousand tokens or adding them in to the market would also see put in to play an option to waver the evac protocol and see if that draws people like me back to null. I've learned from my past. Anything I want I keep in jump range low, should I ever return to Null but I'm really just fishing for something to give to CCP. I think this might be popular.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#6 - 2014-09-30 00:56:02 UTC
Welcome to EVE - where your choices matter and decisions always have consequences. Oh and by the way, if your alliance lost its space or you got kicked out of it, we'll have NPCs magically fairy-dust your locked-up assets to a place where you have access to them again.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#7 - 2014-09-30 01:04:03 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Welcome to EVE - where your choices matter and decisions always have consequences. Oh and by the way, if your alliance lost its space or you got kicked out of it, we'll have NPCs magically fairy-dust your locked-up assets to a place where you have access to them again.



Copy and pasted from any one of 200,000 threads that don't adhere to the extreme version of 'EVE is Hard'.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#8 - 2014-09-30 06:50:58 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Ocih wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Write some code that allows people to contract, shift assets in Sov outposts to neutral/ NPC stations.


It's called a Courier contract. Set it JF sized with a decent payout, set it to the group living there, and odds are it'll get done for you.


You can courier a fitted Archon sitting in an oupost? Even a single Battleship for that matter has a 500K M3 volume. I had 30 of them ready for action. I'm sure you envision some lucrative opportunity to milk people for billions based on misfortune but I'm also sure you will find most of the assets remain where they are.


Then fire sale those things that are too hard to move. Or jump clone back and repackage. Or. Or. Or.

Or get a character into an alliance that can dock. I did that after a hiatus got my stuff locked in Detorid. Ended up sticking around ratting for a while until a wildly lucrative opportunity appeared due to putting that character there.

Also, most of the time anyone makes billions it's based off the misfortune of others.


Don't ask CCP to do something for you when you are perfectly capable of doing it yourself.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-09-30 07:27:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
How is this boosting subs?


The people who left with assets in now locked stations also left eve with assets they can access. Put another they....they moved whatever they cared about in the evac operations to a low sec system (cap docking popular for this), maybe hauled some crap to empire....so they still have assets to work with.

Hell depending on how long gone....they already have an incentive to come back as Is now. Lets have them leave 2-3 years ago. Inflation hit eve big time in that span. Most items they'd have probably worth more now then when they left. Come back for 1 month and that plex (or even more than 1) should be well covered and then some. that's even if they fire sold it off in many cases.

Put another way....these players just aren't digging eve atm, and its not because they have locked assets. I know many bitters with billions in locked station assets. Their philosophy....who knows, maybe I will back there one day and station not locked out to me. In the interim, they made more isk and bought more stuff.