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FoZ CroZZan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-09-29 03:20:26 UTC  |  Edited by: FoZ CroZZan
Hi all,

I have recently been researching and setting up Robotics Production on 5 planets for close to (what I think) is near
maximum output. Its all just theory at the moment but I hope it works.

These images should explain how it all works, but I'll add some figures in at the bottom.

Raw Mats and Tier 1 Production

• This is rather straight forward. Though making sure the storage has enough can be tricky if you
have to move the extractors around. Should be manageable though.

Tier 2 and Final Robotics Production

• Again, pretty straight forward. Although, as the note suggests, it's better to get the Tier 1 planets
running for a day or two so you can build up a 24-36 hour buffer in the storages in this planet, including the
storages for Mechanical Parts and Consumer Electronics.

So this setup "should" in theory produce 216 units of Robotics / day or 1512 / week.
So according to eve market sites thats about 80 - 90 million per week or 350 - 400 million / month.
And with two chars setup for this, I hope it doesn't go wrong.

Its up and running and will let you know how it goes if anyones interested.

Anyway, have a look and tell me if you have any ideas or constructive criticism.

FoZ 07

Aura - "Physics says no." FoZ - "Awww c'mon babe, it won't hurt that bad"
Ms Forum Alt
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-09-29 08:06:16 UTC
80-90m a week isn't 2.5 billion a month.
Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#3 - 2014-09-29 12:48:57 UTC
As the other poster says your numbers do not match up.

I do robotics too, out in null sec over 16 planets, 3 factory planets and 13 basic extraction planets. This is over 3 toons, 2 of which have 5 planets and one has 6 planets.

I’ve never really timed it in terms of weeks or days as I normally ship out when I have about 3000 units of robotics but I think that is around 2 or2.5 weeks. The last order I sold was for about 190m so I am getting approx. 380/400m per month.

I think your 80/90m a month is doable, but although I really wished that it brought in 2-2.5b sadly it doesn’t.

I use a 1 day 45 minute cycle (the highest amount with 15 minute cycles).

The amount of ISK i get is affected by a number of reasons.
1. my time in game, sometime the extractors stop whilst I am at work.
2. I cannot be bothered to moved all my extractor heads (I use 10 per planet) and so they are not always over the very highest resource they can be. Essentally I try and get above 1m units shown in the window before clicking OK.
3. Sometimes I stop the process early and retry straight away.

The amount you get will vary, PI is a very inaccurate science really I think.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#4 - 2014-09-29 14:05:05 UTC
Thanks for providing your setup details and screen shots.

What space are you locating in?
Why did you pick 5 extractors?
What level are your PI skills?
How often do you think you'll have to transport materials?
Poppy Solarchaser
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-09-29 16:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Poppy Solarchaser
FoZ CroZZan wrote:
Hi all,

I have recently been researching and setting up Robotics Production on 5 planets for close to (what I think) is near
maximum output. Its all just theory at the moment but I hope it works.

These images should explain how it all works, but I'll add some figures in at the bottom.

Raw Mats and Tier 1 Production

• This is rather straight forward. Though making sure the storage has enuugh can be tricky if you
have to move the extractors around. Should be manageable though.

Tier 2 and Final Robotics Production

• Again, pretty straight forward. Although, as the note suggests, it's better to get the Tier 1 planets
running for a day or two so you can build up a 24-36 hour buffer in the storages in this planet, including the
storages for Mechanical Parts and Consumer Electronics.

So this setup "should" in theory produce 216 units of Robotics / day or 1512 / week.
So according to eve market sites thats about 80 -90 million per week or 2 - 2.5 billion / month.
And with two chars setup for this, I hope it doesn't go wrong.

Its up and running and will let you know how it goes if anyones interested.

Anyway, have a look and tell me if you have any ideas or constructive criticism.

FoZ 07



Forget the extractors (too time and resource consuming) Inject P2 mats from Market, Buy orders to ensure you are profitable
FoZ CroZZan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-09-29 17:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: FoZ CroZZan
Yes thanks , the estimated monthly income was waaaaay out lol Ugh I have edited that part now.

Quote:
As the other poster says your numbers do not match up.

I do robotics too, out in null sec over 16 planets, 3 factory planets and 13 basic extraction planets. This is over 3 toons, 2 of which have 5 planets and one has 6 planets.

I’ve never really timed it in terms of weeks or days as I normally ship out when I have about 3000 units of robotics but I think that is around 2 or2.5 weeks. The last order I sold was for about 190m so I am getting approx. 380/400m per month.

I think your 80/90m a month is doable, but although I really wished that it brought in 2-2.5b sadly it doesn’t.

I use a 1 day 45 minute cycle (the highest amount with 15 minute cycles).

The amount of ISK i get is affected by a number of reasons.
1. my time in game, sometime the extractors stop whilst I am at work.
2. I cannot be bothered to moved all my extractor heads (I use 10 per planet) and so they are not always over the very highest resource they can be. Essentally I try and get above 1m units shown in the window before clicking OK.
3. Sometimes I stop the process early and retry straight away.

The amount you get will vary, PI is a very inaccurate science really I think.

And yea Rumbaldi, I have 2 toons with this set-up, so its 8 planets extracting and 2 Factory planets.
It'll be tricky sometimes to keep the 36'000 raw units incoming, hope I'll manage.
I'm in the first week of production so will update how it goes.

Quote:
Thanks for providing your setup details and screen shots.

What space are you locating in?
Why did you pick 5 extractors?
What level are your PI skills?
How often do you think you'll have to transport materials?

• I live in wormhole space where the PI is the best P
• 5 Extractors? No its 1 Extractor with 5 Extractor heads. Or is that what you mean? Anyway, it doesn't matter how many you have, just as long as you can sustain however many basic processors you have, and you're fine.
• For skills you need command centres @ 5 and Interplanetary Cons. @ 4 ( the others just help scanning planets ).
• Transporting from extractor planets to factory planets every 24-36 hours if you have a buffer of P1 and P2 products in the Factory planets, but I'm still testing this out.

Quote:
Forgot the extractors Inject P2 mats from Market, Buy orders to ensure you are profitable

I don't know what you are referring to, sorry

Aura - "Physics says no." FoZ - "Awww c'mon babe, it won't hurt that bad"
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#7 - 2014-09-29 17:24:51 UTC
FoZ CroZZan wrote:


Quote:
Forgot the extractors Inject P2 mats from Market, Buy orders to ensure you are profitable

I don't know what you are referring to, sorry


She means stop trying to produce all your raw materials, and buy them from the market. As long as you use buy orders and watch what you pay you can do that and still turn a profit, and yuou can focus your efforts on the robotics.

You'd have to do the math to see which way nets you more profit, but from experience, I can tell you that if you go all in on the factories, you can grind out close to 7,000 robotics per day from 5 planets, so factor that into your calculations.

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FoZ CroZZan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-09-29 17:49:17 UTC
Interesting, but living in a wormhole and having to make trips to high sec to buy the Raw materials would be to much of a logistical nightmare. And that would eat into my PvP time out here Twisted
Could use an alt for that, maybe.

But I see what you're saying. Maybe if I was high or low sec based I would consider it.

Happy pulling out hairs in the wormhole making this work though.

Ty again

FoZ 07

Aura - "Physics says no." FoZ - "Awww c'mon babe, it won't hurt that bad"
Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#9 - 2014-09-29 21:15:09 UTC
Ive not done PI in a wormhole, but it is boiund (as you say) to be better planets, so I think your 400m per month is a reasonable target. possiblt more depndign on exactly how good those planets are.
Leoric Firesword
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-10-01 17:10:35 UTC
I do PI in a WH producing robotics no less

If you minimize your travel lines you can maximize your production. I have 1 more robotics factory on my T2->Robotics planet than you do.

I transfer products every 4 days. Have a 4 day backlog on my T1 products, and a 3 day backlog of T2 products just in case I get sick or something else happens (got sick this weekend, didn't touch my planets at all for a few days, kept producing robotics like a champ)

My recommendations now.

First, screw circles, use lines, straight ones, they'll let you minimize the amount of CPU/Grid wasted on links. Or use a + style layout.

Second, you don't need to split your MP and CE storage apart, seriously, put them together. You'll be able to hold more than enough product to completely fill your robotics launchpad from your backlog before your run out of backlog. That'll free up space for another robotics factory.

Once you've got all this setup you can then add 1 more building (at least I could on my temperate planet) I put in another factory that produces either MP or CE (usually doesn't produce anything) so I can rebuild backlog from when I don't get things reset for whatever reason.
FoZ CroZZan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-10-01 21:42:49 UTC
Yea that sounds gd to me.

Straight lines or + style would save CPU/PWR, nice one.

• This could be applied to the Extraction planets aswell for better output of T1 products? i.e. more T1 processors?

• Yup 1 storage for MP and CE would be more efficient. Thanks

So that frees up another Robotics Processor. Wouldn't that need another 2 MP and 2 CE processors? Or it just takes it from the backlog in the MP+CE storage?

And as for the extra building you mentioned (after all is reset) . That could be used to make the extra MP / CE products that the 4th Robotics Processor uses?

Thanks again,

FoZ 07

Aura - "Physics says no." FoZ - "Awww c'mon babe, it won't hurt that bad"