Crime & Punishment

I like all those ideas now give us cynos in high sec so we can blop on them.

Why not go further and:

1. Require every corp to align to one of the empire or pirate factions. No neutrals - you're either with them or against them. That'll liven FW up a tad.

2. Scrap the NPC corps and make everyone who is new to eve a member of their empire's militia.

3. Want to gank that miner in a high-sec belt? then join a cop aligned to an enemy faction.

4. Want to wardec a corp? Join the enemy's FW.

5. Compensate this by reducing the size of empire high sec.

Lastly, why is it everytime I open up the star map and turn on x ships killed stat, it is empire hi sec that lights up like Regent Street in early December and null remains dark and dull apart of the odd splash of red here and there. Or is it because there's more than enough danger & fun in high sec, just need to sort out NPC membership.

I was always under the impression that half the fun of piracy was pouncing on the unsuspecting, not forcing the very-much-suspecting out of space dock. Or is the complaint here really just that there aren't enough miners in lowsec? Because what you're asking for is basically lowsec, but with miners in it.

As to the actual points...

1. As an indy, I'm all for beefy rats. Bonus if this results in null-quality drops in hi-sec just for mining out belts. This will also have the interesting side-effect of having companion ratters/guards alongside the miners for the lootskies. I can't imagine that making the task of ganking the carebears any easier than it already is for the resident pvp-gods and/or master gank-artists.

2. NPC corps are fine. They help the rest of us spot pvp alts when they're out mining so we can avoid ganks.

3. Removing local is an interesting concept from a veteran's point of view, but utterly prohibitive from new money's point of view. Impractical to implement, at best, since communication is the lifeline of any MMO. I'd suggest you try wormholes, but the locals tend to shoot back.

4. I'd add a contingency to the no-leaving during wardec that they can leave only if they join the aggressor's corp with the aggressor's permission (also, introduce a fine/homage to said corp's wallet. Bribery and turn-cloaking are time-honored traditions among every human civilization, and EVE has generally proven to be a platform for expressing this particular facet of humanity).

5. Moving L4s doesn't really serve any purpose other than forcing expensive mission fits into an environment where PVPers will get juicy mods from pvp content providers. This will more than likely result in either pvp gangs running with L4 missioners, or just L3s getting run instead. Either way, this presents an unexpected challenge to the aspiring pvp-god, as he will now have to shoot things that are much better equipped than he is, or simply much more cheaply fit.

6. Moving incursions is fine.

7. Won't solve the problem, since the boundary for this would be set according to the 5000 isk starter fund afforded to new players, who also start in NPC corps. This will also affect "you," by which we mean hi-sec gankers who stay in NPC corps in order to avoid wardecs from white knights. Keep in mind that your chief complaint (regardless of how it has been stated) is that hi-sec carebears earn more isk than you do.

8. Undocking restrictions for NPC corp members are inadvisable. This only affects shipping, and will serve the sole purpose of ensuring that the residents of null and lowsec will have every reason to gank anything that looks even remotely like a catalyst or an artycane. I imagine that you will thoroughly enjoy being turned into content, however.

9+. The rest of this is pointless. We call this lowsec. If you'd ever gone into it, you'd understand why the miners would just stay on the "hi-sec" side of the boundary after the shift. Not like we actually have to leave the ,7 and ,8 systems to get decent ores, anyways.

The OP is complaining and he is complaining specifically about highsec. Notice the number of mention of the afk ratters/mining fleets in nullsec where PvP is meant to take place, he seem ok with these.

I will let the original poster into a secret the place to go for an large risk free income isn't highsec its nullsec but I think he already knows that.

I get the original post. Very funny.

The only people who use local for communications are spambots.


I LIVE there.

Its ok. You didnt "get it" either. Please re-read Admiral Root's post ten times, slowly.

I had to wait a while to see how this would turn out. I am not disappointed, this thread delivers. 10/10

Remove medical clones, get ride of the "Highlander syndrome" where you think you won't lose anything....skill points disappear every time you go pop and pods are only a ship available if you bail out or no shuttle in the station you dock. 20% of the ship skill piloted is lost, smaller frigates are 75% lost cause of the shorter train.

Lower the sec status you have, the more taxes you pay. Even you should belt rat red crosses to keep it up just as the care bear.

Wardec creates bounties you now pay to CONCORD for every ship you kill, value of ship x2. Pilot of said destroyed ship pays as well for the debris removal and CONCORD pops all wrecks involved.

Player corps now pay higher taxes, cause they are now competing with the NPC faction and empires. Like paying to breath air, you pay hourly taxes for your POS, jump taxes, docking fees, market fees.....make those NPC even richer.

All ships involved in ganks are destroyed, all wrecks removed, all pilots are podded should they try to bail but they cannot jumpgate or worm hole off + log off timer keeps you in space (you know, the slower the response time should you try it in .5 sec....you just cannot escape CONCORD to save your pod).

Fun times, harsh world. In a sandbox, nobody should dictate how someone else should have to suffer otherwise my suggestions should be taken into consideration cause no one wins in the end

The best part yet.... seems to be that even the guys who are trolling all say:

"Remove incursions? Yeaaah.... im ok with that."

This is a great idea. Perhaps give a warning at the gate that you are about to jump into a temporarily CONCORD-free zone for the truly risk-adverse but otherwise isuch a system would put some risk back into the all-too-safe Highsec. It would also help get players used to PvP and give them a reason to team up with others to defeat the incursion faster and return their cluster back to normal so they can go back to their daily carebear activities.