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Tested fittings for empire burner teams
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Per Ole
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-09-24 16:11:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Per Ole
Hey guys! Thought I'd make a thread where we can share the different setups/fits we've come up with in order to beat the four empire burner teams. It would be interesting to see how others have solved the same problems, and will also save you some time so you don't have to test the exact same setup as everyone else.

I'll start. I've done quite extensive testing on the Hawk burner team, and after trying many different ships I have found a Retribution setup that works.

[Retribution, Burner Hawk]
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Small Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]

Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
Small Energy Burst Aerator I

This setup works fine, you take out the bantams first and then the hawk.


An improved version of this setup, which I haven't been able to try because of a lack of faction/deadspace modules on sisi, but which has improved stats over this one while only costing about 10m more, is this one:

[Retribution, Burner Hawk Faction]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Small Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]

Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Collision Accelerator II

This setup has improved dps (202, versus the other setups 182), same range and better tank. Both setups are cap stable. You also use Imperial Navy Xray S for a tiny bit of a damage bonus and better tracking against the hawk, but this isn't really necessary.



So what setups have you guys come up with so far?
Per Ole
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-09-25 08:03:46 UTC
Holy hell, the Amarr team was one tough nut. Finally found a setup that works though, which is kinda a ripoff from the Burner fits thread in missions and complexes.

[Federation Navy Comet, Burner Vengeance]
Small Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Anti-EM Pump I

Hobgoblin II x3

The way this works is that you immediatly web and approach one of the inquisitors when you land, with your AB on. You use your drones and guns to chew through him, which is easy enough. Now comes the kinda odd part. Because there are no deadspace modules on sisi (that I can find), I've had to make do with a t2 web. This means you can't web the 2nd inquisitor, as the closest you'll be able to get is 17-18km and an overheated t2 web is 13km. However, because he has no repping power, your drones can kill him, it's just slow. You can tank all this time with no problems.

After the second inquisitor is done you just finish off the vengeance, which is very easy. I tried breaking the vengeance while that last inquisitor was still alive, might be doable with gallente frigate 5 and the drones on him, but since it's been a while since the mirror I only had gallente frigate 4 and therefore couldn't break him.
Per Ole
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-09-25 09:18:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Per Ole
Alrighty, here's a fit for the Jaguar burner. This was VERY tight, I survived in hull, but I also made some mistakes at the beginning (didn't activate booster until half shield), so that's kinda my fault. With faction/deadspace fittings I think this will do quite nicely.

Use Acolytes for the Bursts and Hobgoblins for the Jaguar.


[Worm, Burner Jaguar]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II

Medium Shield Booster II
Limited Explosive Deflection Field I
Limited Explosive Deflection Field I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Light Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Light Missile (these are renamed on SISI right now, used the "compact" ones instead)
Prototype 'Arbalest' Light Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Light Missile

Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

Hobgoblin II x2
Acolyte II x2

It's a bit tricky, as you'll run out of cap like 1 second before your cap booster finishes its reload, so be quick to activate it again.
Noferatu
Academy of Arms Distribution and Manufacturing
#4 - 2014-09-30 15:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Noferatu
So far I've only done a dual-box test against the Jag team, with a Griffin & FN Comet. My Griffin pilot has pretty decent ECM skills so he goes in first and lays 4 x Meta4 Ladar jams on the Jag, and one on the first Burst. THE Comet is in 2/3 secs later and webs & dispatches the second Burst, then goes for the first. By this time the Jag has run off to 100km+ so I shut down the ECM, wait for him to return, jam him again and dual-web him with the Comet. Then it's easy pickings.

I've run 4 Republic Fleet burner missions and had no trouble with them, all over in 4-5 minutes.

[Griffin, Rep Fleet Ladar Burner]
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II

Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I

Prototype 'Arbalest' Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile

Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]

Cost: About 7.5mill

(The LML's are pretty useless but hey - let support pew when they can:)


[Federation Navy Comet, Rep Fleet Ladar Burner]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener

Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


Hobgoblin II x3

Cost: About 55mill - most of that from the two faction hardeners. You could try a T2 plus a resistance plate instead and keep the cost around 20 mill.

So far (in my limited experience) if the Griffin loses a jam, the Jag immediately goes in for the kill. But with 4 staggered jams, it's only a few secs before he's re-jammed and barely gets one shot off. It's still plenty of time, should you panic, to warp off the Comet.

My tuppenceworth, anyway!