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Language Chat Channel Consolidation With Oceanus

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El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#41 - 2014-09-24 16:26:19 UTC
things would be a lot simpler if everyone spoke german

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Cyno Fit
Munitia.
#42 - 2014-09-24 16:36:34 UTC
What?!

One of the first things I did when I started playing this game was to join my home language channel.

Oh my. So the "New player experience™" is being flushed down the toilet?
Longdrinks
Zero Fun Allowed
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#43 - 2014-09-24 16:40:03 UTC
wow its like opening a new channel named exactly the same thing as the old one is some hard thing to do Shocked
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#44 - 2014-09-24 16:41:35 UTC
lolcorpholder alt wrote:
Also, has this been discussed by CSM? Why bring it up only now, just a week before the expansion? Will we be getting a devblog about this?


I wonder if some CSM speaks other than First Rate Playership languages... Roll

Spanish chat usually haves 100 to 120 people online, which apparently is one third of the German channel, despite Spanish is not a First Rate Playership language. Without a official channel, the Spanish chat community will tear apart in different channels, each one claiming to be the one and true chanel, and newbies be damned if they land on a channel with merely 20 bittervets online whose main interest is holding feuds against all other chat channels...
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-09-24 16:42:11 UTC
Longdrinks wrote:
wow its like opening a new channel named exactly the same thing as the old one is some hard thing to do Shocked



Just like keeping track of alliance tournament is easily done through the alliance tournament-named channel, right? Why even have twitch?
Cyno Fit
Munitia.
#46 - 2014-09-24 16:42:13 UTC
Longdrinks wrote:
wow its like opening a new channel named exactly the same thing as the old one is some hard thing to do Shocked

Yeah but the difference is that it doesn't show in the list. You can end up in something totally different. How does a newbie know how to serach channels. I didn't.
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#47 - 2014-09-24 16:47:11 UTC
Longdrinks wrote:
wow its like opening a new channel named exactly the same thing as the old one is some hard thing to do Shocked



A channel a new player will not find, unless someone tells him its there..
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#48 - 2014-09-24 16:48:25 UTC
Longdrinks wrote:
wow its like opening a new channel named exactly the same thing as the old one is some hard thing to do Shocked


Player channels aren't listed nowhere. If you're not invited or don't know the name of the channel, you can't join them. Whereas official language channels can be browsed from the channels list.

And what is worst, how does a newbie tell which player channel is the right one?
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-09-24 16:56:33 UTC
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Glad Con Suerte
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-09-24 17:01:06 UTC
Wow. Bad decisions after another. CCP where are you going?
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-09-24 17:06:06 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Good afternoon capsuleers Smile



We'd like to let you all know in advance, and invite you to create your own player run language channels after the Oceanus release is deployed in order to continue discussions in your native languages if you wish to do so.

- F <3




Thanks for A WHOLE WEEKS warning time
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#52 - 2014-09-24 17:14:55 UTC
lolcorpholder alt wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Good afternoon capsuleers Smile



We'd like to let you all know in advance, and invite you to create your own player run language channels after the Oceanus release is deployed in order to continue discussions in your native languages if you wish to do so.

- F <3




Thanks for A WHOLE WEEKS warning time


They're just scooping the issue under the rug. Player channels are not their issue, so, with no official language channels, there is no issue with language channels. Kill the dog and kill the fleas...
Xeator
soldiers.fi
#53 - 2014-09-24 17:35:33 UTC
I cant even believe how poorly this is being handled.

When did this "issue" of yours even start? Why are we getting informed a whole WEEK before this poor change? We have no say in the matter? Unbelievable.

Creating player controlled channels is just bad, they can be moderated, people can be banned from them etc.
These public channels are good for people with different native languages than the official ones that you support. Anyone can join and chat there, trolls can always be blocked.

Now its all going to be gone? Leave language channels alone!
lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
#54 - 2014-09-24 17:44:26 UTC  |  Edited by: lmmortalist
This is bullshit.

The language chat channels are probably the easiest way for a newbie to get started in Eve and to find contacts. Hell, I'm too lazy to find new friends/contacts/foes/whatever without the language chat. Basically I foresee players becoming more isolated from each other and the whole new player experience scene taking a huge step backwards because of this.

CCP, in this year's fanfest you announced that you would be launching new expansions way more rapidly than you used to. So far two of those have been released and the third one is about to be released. With the attempt at wrecking the wormhole space and now removing the language chat channels have two out of three of those releases so far been absolutely terrible and made my gaming experience WORSE instead of enhancing it.

DON'T DO THIS.
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-09-24 18:01:21 UTC
Any chance of getting some blue input on this subject considering you caused this situation?
Queen Elarik
Doomheim
#56 - 2014-09-24 18:02:33 UTC
-1

Clean it up, close it out and stick it where the sun don't shine!
Regnag Leppod
Doomheim
#57 - 2014-09-24 18:31:57 UTC
Maybe instead of closing the channels CCP could do something productive like.. I don't know.. ban the players who are being a problem from the game permanently?
VoidRay Alabel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-09-24 18:42:41 UTC
This is probably a bad idea, people who dont speak english or any other supported language will pretty much quit. And the trolls will troll anyways in other channels so.... please don't do it. (Maybe try to mod these channels by asking some known non-troll players for every language ?
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-09-24 18:42:57 UTC
Also, according to the in-works vide for oceanus, you are working on the new player experience. This is not it. This is removing parts of the new player experience. Please fix the oceanus page
Marian Devers
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#60 - 2014-09-24 18:56:29 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Previously we've supported a total of 39 language channels in game, however over the course of the last 12 months or so we have had a rise in the number of complaints regarding politically motivated trolling and inappropriate content being displayed in them.


Will you also shut down Fozzie's twitter due to "politically motivated trolling"? You know, since you're being so worried about trolling in official CCP communication channels.