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Dodging Wardecs

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Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1321 - 2014-09-22 14:15:39 UTC
Black Panpher wrote:
Priscilla Project wrote:
You can play the game the way you want it,
based on how the game works.

In this game it includes that others might not want to let you play however you like.
That's what people are paying for.


The game.


*kinks*


Congratulations you win eve!

My list of achievemnts is huge already ...
... but I'll add this one to it happily. ^_^


*kinks* (:
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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1322 - 2014-09-22 14:22:56 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

You guys need to pull your heads out of your anal orfices.


I think you somehow didnt read part of the post you were quoting, so I'll repeat it on behalf of Jenn Aside:

Quote:
A sandbox game doesn't mean you get to do what you want, it means EVERYONE gets to do what they want, and some people want to shut you down.


THAT my friend in the NPC corp and thus doesnt have a dog in this argument, is what the pvp-adverse have to accept. You can cry and whine all you want about your $15, you pay $15 to play a sandbox game, and as said above, that means EVERYONE gets to play like they like, not just you.

Not that you need to worry about it, being in the State War Academy and all. I'm sure theyre training you to be a real badass. Roll

\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1323 - 2014-09-22 14:29:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagura Nikon
Veers Belvar wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:
CCP won't be touching wardec mechanics and npc corporation fiasco, wardec was suppose to be for game reasons but apparently griefing wasn't one of them and since like most of wardecs in hisec are orbiting around griefing only, CCP left a loop hole in the system. At the end of the day CCP wants to make money and they won't be doing this with people leaving the game.



And how woudl you create a reason? If no one can do serious harm to you in high sec before a war happens? And how about simple reasons like we HATE that group and want to anihilate it? All of eve conflict is about that very reason.

War decs work mostly fine. We would not need to have 50 of them IF the mechanics in high sec rewarded peopel for fighting back, defending stuff and not disbanding. We coudl likely live with 10-12 wars if that was the case. But since so many are coward and disband we need to waste hundreds of millions every week just to keep a MINIMUM number of wartargets around so our members have something to target on the timezones our contract targets are not online.


Seriously? You can't find enough targets? Why not go wardecc Eve University? I promise you they won't disband. The real problem here is risk averse wardeccers looking for fish in a barrel rather than taking on real targets.



Clear show of not knowing high sec. We kept them war decced for 1 year, and recently stopped so they could recover their high sec operations at their request. If I am not mistaken we surpassed 130 BIL isk of damage upon them

So if you do not care even for doing a research, do not post.

We wardec basically anyone that is over a handful of people in high sec. Exclusion to the corps that we have our alts in. And this includes other mercenaries, since I think we have been at war with every single one of them. no we are not risk averse, but you are clearly knowledge averse.

Learn a bit about high sec instead of spewing nonsense based on your personal beliefs. We do not sit at undocks either except at very very low population timezones (otherwise people do not find anything).

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Absolutely Not Analt
Carebears on Fire
#1324 - 2014-09-22 14:53:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Absolutely Not Analt
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

What I am not for is people crying because they use a valid game mechanic to avoid the wardec.



It's not a valid game mechanic. The dev blog makes that pretty obvious.

Right now it's being used to bypass the surrender mechanic since dec dodging is free and instant. Since it's being used to bypass an intended mechanic, that pretty clearly makes it an exploit.


Then petition it and see if CCP agrees with you. If they don't then, regardless of your personal opinion, it's not an exploit. If they do, they'll patch it. It really is that simple.


Tell you what, I'll do it.

I'll post the results. Stay tuned!


Well, my petition was changed from the Exploit category to the General question category. While this is not, in and of itself, a reply, it is kind of suggestive of how CCP views the issue.

Eve is a multi player game. And you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin Being meh at two things is not better than being great at one. - Lugh Crow-Slave
Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1325 - 2014-09-22 14:56:31 UTC
Absolutely not Anal wrote:
I am actually doing something!
Nice! :D
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Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#1326 - 2014-09-22 15:06:46 UTC
Priscilla Project wrote:
*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*


meh... wrong char.
There goes my consistency. -.-


I expect Veers will be very happy with you Sole.

You just got him 4 billion isk.


After many years of gaming have decided my time would be better spent in the real world.


Isk will be sent very soon Veers Big smile
Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1327 - 2014-09-22 15:11:02 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Priscilla Project wrote:
*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*


meh... wrong char.
There goes my consistency. -.-


I expect Veers will be very happy with you Sole.

You just got him 4 billion isk.


After many years of gaming have decided my time would be better spent in the real world.


Isk will be sent very soon Veers Big smile
So?

As if he needed the money for anything productive anyway.
All he cares about is incursions, isk/hour and ruining highsec.

If you leave, we all win anyway.
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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#1328 - 2014-09-22 15:16:34 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Priscilla Project wrote:
*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*


meh... wrong char.
There goes my consistency. -.-


I expect Veers will be very happy with you Sole.

You just got him 4 billion isk.


After many years of gaming have decided my time would be better spent in the real world.


Isk will be sent very soon Veers Big smile

IMO you're just covering up RMT...
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#1329 - 2014-09-22 15:18:05 UTC
Priscilla Project wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Priscilla Project wrote:
*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*


meh... wrong char.
There goes my consistency. -.-


I expect Veers will be very happy with you Sole.

You just got him 4 billion isk.


After many years of gaming have decided my time would be better spent in the real world.


Isk will be sent very soon Veers Big smile
So?

As if he needed the money for anything productive anyway.
All he cares about is incursions, isk/hour and ruining highsec.

If you leave, we all win anyway.



Then we all win, nice to finish on a positive Blink

Isk sent Veers, enjoy.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1330 - 2014-09-22 15:20:23 UTC
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

What I am not for is people crying because they use a valid game mechanic to avoid the wardec.



It's not a valid game mechanic. The dev blog makes that pretty obvious.

Right now it's being used to bypass the surrender mechanic since dec dodging is free and instant. Since it's being used to bypass an intended mechanic, that pretty clearly makes it an exploit.


Then petition it and see if CCP agrees with you. If they don't then, regardless of your personal opinion, it's not an exploit. If they do, they'll patch it. It really is that simple.


Tell you what, I'll do it.

I'll post the results. Stay tuned!


Confirming you havent read the entire thread before posting, either, or you would know that that's already been done and then discussed for several pages.

Thank you for wasting everyone's time.

Dio gives you 4 horns down. /w\ o.O /w\



\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1331 - 2014-09-22 15:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Priscilla Project
It seemed to me that you are an alt of his anyway.

Why?

Grog... Monkey Island connection.
Swordmasters... another Monkey Island connection.

Coincidences can be really weird, right?


Right.


They don't end there though.

The skulls of the faces share a weird misbuilding too.

But hey... COINCIDENCES........
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Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1332 - 2014-09-22 15:29:17 UTC
Not even talking about the hair.......

Oh I made screenshots just so, btw.......
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1333 - 2014-09-22 15:31:40 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Priscilla Project wrote:
*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*


meh... wrong char.
There goes my consistency. -.-


I expect Veers will be very happy with you Sole.

You just got him 4 billion isk.


After many years of gaming have decided my time would be better spent in the real world.


Isk will be sent very soon Veers Big smile


Nooooo.....we need more of the decent folks to stay around, too many crazies here already.....Good luck in the Real World, and def gimme a poke here if you decide to come back - I'm known to be generous with refunds. Thanks for the cash and I'll put it to good use!
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1334 - 2014-09-22 15:34:23 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Priscilla Project wrote:
*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*


meh... wrong char.
There goes my consistency. -.-


I expect Veers will be very happy with you Sole.

You just got him 4 billion isk.


After many years of gaming have decided my time would be better spent in the real world.


Isk will be sent very soon Veers Big smile

IMO you're just covering up RMT...


Him leaving to do other things because he is sick of dealing with the delinquents and immature griefers is sad for all of us, true, and an impeachment of some of the game design here as well, but not RMT (I gave nothing in return!) and no, he isn't an alt of mine, just one of the few decent people in the game!
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1335 - 2014-09-22 15:35:50 UTC
Priscilla Project wrote:
It seemed to me that you are an alt of his anyway.

Why?

Grog... Monkey Island connection.
Swordmasters... another Monkey Island connection.

Coincidences can be really weird, right?


Right.


They don't end there though.

The skulls of the faces share a weird misbuilding too.

But hey... COINCIDENCES........


Your detective skills are impeccable. Find a couple of marginally in common things (and I do mean MARGINALLY), then declare people to be alts. The JFK conspiracy folks got nothing on you, buddy.
Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1336 - 2014-09-22 15:39:46 UTC
Please everyone be aware that I am not a friend of this highnosed coward and liar,
who has never and will never achieve anything anyway.

Thanks.
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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#1337 - 2014-09-22 15:41:43 UTC
Why would you care?

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Priscilla Project
Doomheim
#1338 - 2014-09-22 15:43:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Priscilla Project
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Why would you care?

I rather explicitely mention it.

Ignorance towards the words of others can easily backfire.

I know he only says it because he wants to bother me,
but that's besides the point.
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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1339 - 2014-09-22 15:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiply Rustic
Kagura Nikon wrote:



Because the good of many and the health of the game superceed the xenophobism and lack of social skills of few.



No, they don't. Because sandbox. You're trying to shove a specific playstyle down the throats of players in a sandbox. You could not possibly be more wrong in taking that approach.

Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.
Absolutely Not Analt
Carebears on Fire
#1340 - 2014-09-22 16:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Absolutely Not Analt
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

What I am not for is people crying because they use a valid game mechanic to avoid the wardec.



It's not a valid game mechanic. The dev blog makes that pretty obvious.

Right now it's being used to bypass the surrender mechanic since dec dodging is free and instant. Since it's being used to bypass an intended mechanic, that pretty clearly makes it an exploit.


Then petition it and see if CCP agrees with you. If they don't then, regardless of your personal opinion, it's not an exploit. If they do, they'll patch it. It really is that simple.


Tell you what, I'll do it.

I'll post the results. Stay tuned!


Confirming you havent read the entire thread before posting, either, or you would know that that's already been done and then discussed for several pages.

Thank you for wasting everyone's time.

Dio gives you 4 horns down. /w\ o.O /w\




If it's been done and discussed to death, why do people keep bringing it up? I'm just trying to contribute to the thread in a manner that actually resolves an outstanding question. If an answer to this has been obtained, then please, let's get that made clear, so we can either demand CCP fix the exploit, or stop calling it one and move on with our lives.

Also, please have enough respect for the dead to not drag Johnny into the cesspit that is the GD forums.

Eve is a multi player game. And you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin Being meh at two things is not better than being great at one. - Lugh Crow-Slave