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Ice belts in High Sec and Scheduled Downtime
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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-09-21 12:16:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
You people.

The ice respawns 4h after being depleted. It just so happens that everyone else has managed to put their ice mining on a timer.

Want some ice? You'll have to compete with the others.

Oh look at that: Ice mining is a form of PvP.

OP is asking CCP to make his chosen form of PvP easier for him to win at. I think we know what to say to this.



Punchline is this was a player requested change. CCP shifted ice to out of empire as the whines were rampant in the days of near unlimited ice mining in empire. I saw it abused....hell I abused it. Ice fields that didn't die, if you did things right safe aft ice mining....lets just say I had many dual box nights with the 0.0 char bashing and the empire alt icing all night long at the same time.
Hell was up to triple box when I had the accounts....3rd was the hauler and fleet mate to get the miner's boosts working.


Well that I tend to blowoff oceanic/asia has it better threads. I am in that tz. for those of us who don't rush out to hit the fresh rocks and as mentioned in the past more ripe farming of faction/office spawns in 0.0....it tends to suck. Whatever fun you have planned has to plan in that server shutdown real soon. Makes pvp ops a pita. Does it end and back at home before? Do you just run with it and do the dt safe spot logging? And if so....say hello to the joys of glued to chair to hear comms. I have flown with a few FC's who when they said you got 5 minutes past DT before we roll and meant it. Come back in at 10 minutes....enjoy your solo trip to wherever. Hope its not a big ship and has a half decent chance on gates lol.
Zeur Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-09-22 00:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeur Maximus
Since starting this thread I have learned droves from it.. Forum is great.

Although I like the methodical and predictable repop after DT.. it is blatently canned - predicatble..

All you guys raising the competition (troll) flag .. lol.. knowing when resources are coming up isn't competition..

Anyway, I did get the answers I was looking for and I like the system just as it is..

Time to kick in the miners and get at it = )
Zeur Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-09-22 00:43:23 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
You people.

The ice respawns 4h after being depleted. It just so happens that everyone else has managed to put their ice mining on a timer.

Want some ice? You'll have to compete with the others.

Oh look at that: Ice mining is a form of PvP.

OP is asking CCP to make his chosen form of PvP easier for him to win at. I think we know what to say to this.


Sorry man but I think you missed the point of the thread. It was a bout a hard-wired exploit.

Not about equipment or size of such equipment.. Nor was it even about someone not knowing where the ice was..
Iain Cariaba
#24 - 2014-09-22 02:18:44 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
OP is asking CCP to make his chosen form of PvP easier for him to win at. I think we know what to say to this.

This differentiates him from almost every other highsec carebear how? Highsec carebears are notorious for their crying to CCP Mommy over each and every threat to their isk/hr, whether that threat be real or imagined.
Zeur Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-09-22 02:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeur Maximus
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
OP is asking CCP to make his chosen form of PvP easier for him to win at. I think we know what to say to this.

This differentiates him from almost every other highsec carebear how? Highsec carebears are notorious for their crying to CCP Mommy over each and every threat to their isk/hr, whether that threat be real or imagined.


Oh he's tough isn't he.

Sighs, troll cough*

The thread was a discussion on game mechanics only - just so we are on the same page.
Iain Cariaba
#26 - 2014-09-22 03:12:49 UTC
Zeur Maximus wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
OP is asking CCP to make his chosen form of PvP easier for him to win at. I think we know what to say to this.

This differentiates him from almost every other highsec carebear how? Highsec carebears are notorious for their crying to CCP Mommy over each and every threat to their isk/hr, whether that threat be real or imagined.


Oh he's tough isn't he.

Sighs, troll cough*

The thread was a discussion on game mechanics only - just so we are on the same page.

No, this wasnt a post about game mechanics only. It was a whine to CCP that they are being unfair to you.

You apparently don't fully comprehend how the ice spawn mechanics works. Ice spawns at DT. Once that is mined out, it respawns 4 hours later. Once that is mined out, it respawns 4 hours later. And so on until DT. Judging by your original post, you apparently play during one of those 4 hour windows, and consider this unfair.

So, rather than take one of several steps to secure yourself some ice, because there isn't anything else you'd rather do in this game beyond stare at a giant ice cube spinning in space, you want CCP to change the mechanics of how ice spawns to suit you.
Zeur Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-09-22 03:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeur Maximus
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Zeur Maximus wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
OP is asking CCP to make his chosen form of PvP easier for him to win at. I think we know what to say to this.

This differentiates him from almost every other highsec carebear how? Highsec carebears are notorious for their crying to CCP Mommy over each and every threat to their isk/hr, whether that threat be real or imagined.


Oh he's tough isn't he.

Sighs, troll cough*

The thread was a discussion on game mechanics only - just so we are on the same page.

No, this wasnt a post about game mechanics only. It was a whine to CCP that they are being unfair to you.

You apparently don't fully comprehend how the ice spawn mechanics works. Ice spawns at DT. Once that is mined out, it respawns 4 hours later. Once that is mined out, it respawns 4 hours later. And so on until DT. Judging by your original post, you apparently play during one of those 4 hour windows, and consider this unfair.

So, rather than take one of several steps to secure yourself some ice, because there isn't anything else you'd rather do in this game beyond stare at a giant ice cube spinning in space, you want CCP to change the mechanics of how ice spawns to suit you.


Totally wrong Lain, not my intent at all.. may sound good to support a rant but not correct.

Actually the Post was put up because I was trying to understand a few things about the mechanics which I thought at the time

were broken, turns out they weren't that bad.. That's what forums are for, as I was directed here by CCP help folks.

I was wrong in that I did not know the anomalies respawned every 4 hours all day long.. I thought it was a one shot deal. My have overlooked the fact because I work long hours and I lost my Eve Operators manual somewhere..

Because the repop is predictable it does give those present at downtime a slight advantage of knowing when an anomaly is present. However, its pretty fair - good enough IMO.

I've nothing more to add.. my question / concern was answered..

Sorry no drama - no whining - I dont give a crap about easy or I would be a long term Eve subscriber now would I ?

Thanks to those that helped me figure it out !!!
LiBraga
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-09-22 13:54:26 UTC
Searches for you via Locator agents... locates your nearest ice belts.... puts cloaky alts in them to prevent them respawning when depleted.

Hahahaha 1 Spawn every 24 hours and it's mined whilst you're at work.

Whilst this act would be victimization.... How many alliances do you think would do similar to raise the value of ice for those who mine it in 0.0

(Note they may have changed the anomaly mechanics so that this doesn't work anymore... I'm not sure... Ice isn't my thing)

If it moves.... You obviously didn't kill it the first time.
Zeur Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-09-22 15:54:53 UTC
Interesting thought lol.. who knows ?
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