EVE General Discussion

There is no earn. My entitlement to play this game how I want comes when I pay my sub. When you pay my sub then you can tell me how to play my game.

So, here's a more elaborate opinion...

Ok, war dec me. I have an industry alt. I stay in my corp and move my industry alt out of the corp. You honestly think that's an exploit? What about the alts of the war dec corp making their money for them? Then that's an exploit too.

You want to declare war on a one character/man corp? You really are king ******* neckbeard then. That's like Russia declaring war on Monaco. There's an old saying, "The juice isn't worth the squeeze". Everyone hates the "Eve is dying" threads, but if no one can start a new corporation Eve will undoubtedly die. If your endgame is nothing more than tears they will eventually be yours.

If you declare war on a small corp and some of the members just leave, that's not an exploit, its just people who don't want to be shot at with no provocation. In fact, most people on Earth are this way, no matter how tough they act on the virtually anonymous internet.

You declare war on a small corp and everyone drops the corp and reforms. They just lost all their standings with every (npc) corp in the game for 7 days. No more jump clones, no more missions that the character itself didn't grind standings with. At that point then it may or may not be crossing the line of "exploit", but for every case that's not "exploit" its definitely harassment. In other words if you did nothing to provoke the aggressor and have no assets worth taking then they are just harassing you.

Then of course the final scenario is corps that have real assets and or aggregates someone, then the whole corp drops and reforms. That's probably an exploit, but it one that costs you your POS, so you pay for it in spades.

Wardec price should depend on the NPC standings and sec status of the corps involved. For a deccer, the price should be higher if they had bad relations to authorities, and even higher if the declared corp has better relations to authorities.

Furthermore, the declared corp should be able to counter-bribe CONCORD to nullify the war declaration.

Anything is on the table as far as I am concerned, after the existing drop-corp loophole is closed.

Keep in mind though, wardec fees have already been increased -- it's long overdue the counter-balancing closing of drop-corp loophole is closed.

Then we can talk.

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If a player chooses to hide out in an NPC corp to avoid wardecs, that's his call. He has that choice. It is not 'hounding', that is pansified carebear speech. WoW is that way -->


Corps are corps, they are both pvp and pve -- there shouldn't be different war mechanics to try and protect one subset.

If players (especially newer players) don't like paying 50% NPC corp taxes to enjoy safety from wardecs, they can choose to create their little 1 man corps as they do today. Nothing is stopping them from doing that. Choice equals consequence however THAT is EvE.

Also, there is this little thing called 'alliances', where even a PVE corp can join an alliance that also contains PVP corps for their protection. Your problem (and I would dare say many pansy carebears problems), is they refuse to organize to enjoy the protections offered by said organizations...

I would dare say, small corps that can't organize to defend themselves SHOULD be blasted from existance and die under wardecs, and said conflict ensure only those worthy of survival as a corp go on to join an alliance to protect it (or learn to protect themselves). Your problem is you think the weak and incompetent should be able to run (1 man tax dodging) corps without molestation at all, that is not HTFU, that is not EvE.

Additionally, (and I don't know how I didn't mention it sooner..being a merc myself), there are MANY mercenary PVP corps that can be hired by a PVE corp to protect them or ally with them in war defense. Your ISK, their guns, its a beautiful partnership.

Finally, for your pansified heresies against EvE HTFU, we are adding a +1 to the Kill-It-Forward queue, where an innocent carebear will be murdered by us in hisec and told it was because of you and your heresies in this thread.

Your heresies, our hands, their blood, your conscience.

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BS. Your sub gives you access to the game, nothing more. The only 'rights' you have in this game are contained in the EULA, that's it.

So you can play as you want, other people can play as they want, and if they want to stop you, that's fair game. What shouldn't happen is that you shouldn't be able to short-circuit someone playing against you so easily that it costs you nothing.

The above describes the hypocricy seen in many high sec posters. They don't like Ganking (for example) because 'it doesn't cost enough, catalysts are cheap', but when it's a beneficial game mechanic that costs NOTHING (folding then reform a corporation), well, hey, that's ok because sandbox/emergent gameplay.

Complete joke for the defending side.
You have no idea who put mercs on you in the first place.
Odds are high your paying guys working with the guys who are deccing you.

I've yet to ever hear of one time hiring mercs helped a defending corp in over 5 years of playing.

You meant Ukraine....which the pretty much did. Same as when the United States invade Grenada. EVE, like real life, isn't some honorable 1v1 arena, it's cut throat dog eat smaller dog madness. It might suck in real life (because of all the dying) but it's fun in a video game.

I'm glad that some of you EVE players aren't George Lucas. If y'all was, Star Wars would have been a 10 minute short story about Luke Skywalker moaning about how unfair Galactic Empire Wardecs are (and then giving up without a fight). Because even with the force how can a few people beat Death Stars (he wouldn't have even thought about trying to Torpedo any exhaust ports because of the unfavorable Risk/Reward ratio)?

I remain constantly amazed about the displays of risk aversion (like dec-dodging) in a meaningless video game where nothing tangible can be lost.

The things you mention aren't equal at all. The 'gankbears' pay 50 million is. what does the disbanding corp pay again? oh right, NOTHING.

The only reason the 'gankbears' exist is the same reason why gankers in general exist in high sec, that's where the weak minded explosion-fodder is.

The hands of the holy inquisitors of HTFU will be washed clean, by issuing a Kill-It-Forward notification to the victim post-detonation, explaining how you are the cause of his demise.

In a magical act similar to the transmogrification of host into HIS flesh, the sin of capsuleer murder will be transferred from our skilled inquisitors hands, onto yours....

Just imagine. Out there right now some innocent carebear is running level 3 security missions in AFK bliss, unwaware that Grog Aftermath has set into motion his date with DEATH.

...unless perhaps, you publicly renounce your pansied heresies against HTFU.

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