Player Features and Ideas Discussion

interceptors can't retain their immunity to forced engagement without eventually snuffing out nearly all organic content outside of highsec / lolsec forced content honor beacons.

when the only response to an interceptor fleet is to Stop Playing or Form Interceptors and Go **** With Their Friends, it doesn't take an elite PL tournament commentator to realize that interceptor fraction of gameplay grows like cancer until nearly no other content is left and even the people who are perfectly happy roaming interceptors all day get bored with not tackling eachother and go play another game

some might even argue much of this has already come to pass.

please, think of the children, and either remove interdiction nullification from interceptors or fix their agility so that it's not game mechanically impossible to tackle them when agility fitted, because i dont think your bottom line can withstand ccpl fuzzie's stilted vision of 23/7 420 erryday interceptor roamz.

I'd be fine with the malediction change if you give the crusader a tracking bonus to replace the cap use for its guns and give a bigger cap capacity.

I’d like to push back against forcing the Malediction into a rocket-only fit. It seems like poor design to strip away an attractive option that’s slightly overpowered only because of the module. If your 6% ROF nerf doesn’t solve LMLs, that’s a problem with the weapon system and not a special problem with the Malediction. Please let me keep my annoying, LML-spitting Cylon Raider.

Oh man, the teeth-gnashing of the nanobrigade because their bullshit OP weapon system got nerfed by six whole percentage points is amazing. A crow's post-change dps will be ~83% of present, and you'll apply it better and have selectable damage. The only real horror is that you'll actually have to give up your tank for a kiting fit. The humanity! I don't know if DPS is where I would have hit LMLs, but this is not some apocalyptic nerf.

Limiting the malediction to rockets is a) fine b) better than the alternative. Rocket maledictions were quite viable before the interceptor changes, and they'll be viable now. The alternative would be an across the board nerf, making the malediction terrible at everything instead of axing the lmls.

What I really want to know is why the Claw got nothing.

I see, you are only after kill mails. That explains a lot. You know... driving the ceptors out of your space without getting a kill mail is also a won fight. Forcing ceptors to run a way from your fleet or face obliteration is also a good fight and serves the goal to secure your space from these invaders just as fine. But I guess you only get PAPs or receive SRP when you provide kill mails.

Your assumption is perfectly fine, and forcing the ceptor fleet to leg it is already a won fight and has achieved the goal. Kill mails are icing, not the necessity to undock and fight. Henceforth, ceptor fleets as they are are fine. What is wrong and broken is the attitude of the players in this game and it revolving around kill mails, kill mails and more kill mails to have a "gudfite".

the crow is retaining its 60km light missiles and thanks to the addition of a fourth launcher is not experiencing a significant loss of DPS with the removal of its kinetic misl bonus

so I think you're probably fine

mostly good changes .. my raptor will certainly enjoy the 4th midslot .. the web will help a lot..

the crusader or lack of mention entirely is a concern .. 2 slots rarely hinders its usefulness too the point where amarr pilots will train a malediction instead .. despite having too train missiles too do so ... you see the problem here???

besides a -1 high +1 mid ... it could rather do with more improvements all round ..
with -1 high it would lose a turret .. so maybe either add drones for dps or give it a 10% damage bonus .. more HP and better agility/cap would help, better tracking .. 10% tracking perhaps like the ares got?

I thought the whole point of doing smaller updates at a higher frequency was to avoid crap changes like nerfing a whole weapon system as it applies to one type of ship, with blatant disregard to how it effectively breaks other ships that use the same?

The feedback has been overwhelmingly negative. I suppose the changes could have been modified before the release, had the notes on this been published more than a week and change before the release date. But, I suppose that's not your fault, either. That's assuming, of course, that you read or care what's in these forums in the first place.

There are people out there flying rocket Crows. Just saying.

Try fitting that fourth hardpoint with a LML without an increase in grid. These changes will kill LML crows because they will need a fitting mod just to fit a full rack of launchers, an MWD, and a point. Basically, they're turning the Crow into a rocket 'ceptor without being obvious about it.