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Operation Report: The Poutine Harvest

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Saavik Ambraelle
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#41 - 2014-09-18 14:51:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Saavik Ambraelle
Evicting mostly inactive care bears is killing wspace, oh no. The wspace content they provided was so damn riveting, and now its a tragedy that they are gone!
End sarcasm.

Yeah, great, because now they are more active trying to recover their losses, and are back in wspace anyway, you're all havi

Intoxication is the most effective of warp scramblers.
Zara Arran
Overload This
#42 - 2014-09-18 14:53:21 UTC
wow..

we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho.

In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag?

Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining...

Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge.

/rant
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#43 - 2014-09-18 14:59:16 UTC
Thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment.

If you did not want to have it moved, you should have left out the killmails.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2014-09-18 15:16:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Sith1s Spectre
Zara Arran wrote:
wow..

we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho.

In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag?

Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining...

Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge.

/rant


Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides.

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#45 - 2014-09-18 15:20:40 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Zara Arran wrote:
wow..

we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho.

In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag?

Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining...

Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge.

/rant


Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides.


NO DONT YOU ******* DARE INTERRUPT THEIR NARRATIVE

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#46 - 2014-09-18 15:56:53 UTC
Bhane Celesto wrote:

Amazing read-up, excellent presentation and well played on the eviction

+1

Bhane Celesto wrote:
but the sad fact is that's just -1 wh group roaming the unknown.


Some may be disheartened by such an outcome, but I doubt the WH will remain empty.

As it was setup, It was obviously too tempting to resist, and they fell due to complacency and as a QUL member pointed out a bad timing in their activity schedule (them being focused on their alliance tournament team..) ... May be they come back somewhere else, creating content, or may be they will hound their evictors, creating other type of content, or may be they will roam from K-space...

Mentioning that a WH eviction is participating to lack of content is disingenuous imho....

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Rob Benson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-09-18 16:03:52 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#48 - 2014-09-18 16:07:03 UTC
Don't know which I like more: OP; or the tears of all the hole-bears crying over some dudes who couldn't defend themselves getting their a$$es handed to them...


... as it should be, in this game.
Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#49 - 2014-09-18 17:06:28 UTC
I rather enjoyed our fights with QUL, this one was the most recent.

Before that fight we engaged them in our Magnetar before the eviction in which they promptly executed two of our Vindicators with 4 Guardians supporting.

Mostly I'm with the opinion that evicting someone just cause is pointless and creates a paddling up river effect for all of WSpace. Now, if they were evicted because someone wanted that specific WH for whatever reason: good pi, system affect, static, etc. then I'm all for that as well.

To each their own I suppose, if this is how Lazerhawks plays their EVE then so be it. It's my belief it will bite them in the ass eventually. I still <3 HiddenFremen.

I do hope that QUL can cut their 'fat' and get back into WSpace promptly with this most recent fire that was so elegantly placed under their rectums.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#50 - 2014-09-18 17:12:11 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Zara Arran wrote:
wow..

we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho.

In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag?

Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining...

Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge.

/rant


Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides.

This. Slightly funny in that sense.

Tl;Dr ITT
evictions are good when "we" think they are.
evictions are bad when "we" think they are
Having an opinion on either of the above makes "you" something something fill in the blank

This is a choose your own adventure where "we" and "you" are totally up to reader's perspective/preference.

I'm right behind you
CivilWars
Half Empty
xqtywiznalamywmodxfhhopawzpqyjdwrpeptuaenabjawdzku
#51 - 2014-09-18 17:19:22 UTC
So it seems SKY fought QUL at least 3 times before I joined. Maybe the French just fear me. I guess that is what happens when you declare yourself king of w-space.

Hidden Fremen liked your forum post:

Jack Miton liked your forum post:
Amarr Citizen 000001
League of Extraordinary Equines
#52 - 2014-09-18 18:46:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarr Citizen 000001
Powers Sa wrote:
Cool post about shooting pos. I've never seen anyone post so enthusiastically about pos shots.


FINALLY someone gets it :D

ISD Ezwal wrote:
Thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment.

If you did not want to have it moved, you should have left out the killmails.


A wormhole thread without an ISD post isn't really a wormhole thread anyways. <3
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#53 - 2014-09-18 22:09:10 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
And not a single thank you...


Ill thank you Hidden, I know my corp doesn't have a great track record of providing content, but at least were usually honest about fights or no fights. On multiple occasions QUL has told us theyre forming up , and rolling their WH at the same time ( prior to Hyperion).

For me theres a difference in " well try to raise a fleet standby" and " we are coming hold on a minute", and I make great efforts to ensure communicating the right one when confronted by groups. After repeated disappointments wed just roll onwards when we saw QUL knowing theres a 0% chance of content.

Event Organizer of EVE North East
Mr Omniblivion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2014-09-18 22:23:18 UTC
Can't you guys use API data to find active whs to get more fights?






Twisted
Schwa Nuts
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-09-18 23:46:42 UTC
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
Can't you guys use API data to find active whs to get more fights?






Twisted



nope
Bob Artis
Rolled Out
#56 - 2014-09-19 00:26:30 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:


Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides.


I was really getting excited about this summer. I thought Wormhole space was about to see a multi-front war with almost every notable WH group at the time. I wanted to see invasions and counter invasions. I thought I might actually get to see my first invasion from the defending side. The night EXIT, Disavowed, and RLLO seeded and took control oh QEX's hole was the most exciting night since I started playing EVE. I thought "This is the end game I imagined when I created my account back in 2008". But no. Instead we get one group bitching out and nothing happening.

In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread.
Tanzor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-09-19 00:33:03 UTC
I LOVE LAMP!
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#58 - 2014-09-19 00:41:47 UTC
Bob Artis wrote:
In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread.

I don't remember thinking anything other than DOING instead of talking...
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#59 - 2014-09-19 07:02:10 UTC
Quote:
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This made me happy Lol

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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ChrisLCTR
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#60 - 2014-09-19 07:16:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ChrisLCTR
Zara Arran wrote:
wow..

we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho.

In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag?

Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining...

Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge.

/rant


Couldn't agree more. I miss actual logical posts like this. EVE-O/W forums are basically cancer 98% of the time. Thanks Zara for the breath of fresh air


Bob Artis wrote:


In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread.


Never a statement that came from any of us. I think people just jumped on the whole bandwagon that we are the villains, Which is fine. Every good story requires a protagonist. If you can find a statement from any of use proclaiming that we are the best thing since sliced bread or anything to that effect, good on you. I invite you to try, but instead of doing just that, I can expect that there will be a huge negative response from the same 5-7 people that post on every thread in the WH forums. Trolling is pretty satisfying as I understand, but something people seem to fail to realize is nobody in -LZHX- cares, like at all.

We are playing a game that we enjoy, in the space that we are still having fun living and operating out of. Sorry some of you lost the spirit to do the same, and feel somewhat vindicated to splurge a bunch of nonsensical criticism towards EVERY post made by us.

I think some folks that seem to dislike us are upset that we are still having fun in W-Space, and having some relatively good success. Silly for us to feel compelled to even dignify your comments with any responses.