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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#921 - 2014-09-18 09:01:58 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Edit: Real players? lmao we're all real players


Don't hate the playa, baby.. hate the Game.


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Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#922 - 2014-09-18 09:32:24 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Edit: Real players? lmao we're all real players


Don't hate the playa, baby.. hate the Game.




Well you did say you were trolling, so guess you're true to form.

How you got hate out of that I don't know.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#923 - 2014-09-18 09:58:47 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Edit: Real players? lmao we're all real players


Don't hate the playa, baby.. hate the Game.




Well you did say you were trolling, so guess you're true to form.

How you got hate out of that I don't know.


Just a figure of speech, I feel no hate coming from ya, Grog Blink


\m/ O.o \m/

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Matcha Mosburger
Matsuko Holding
#924 - 2014-09-18 13:03:18 UTC
Not trying to be an ass or troll... But seriously why WD a 1 or even 2 or 3 man corp in the first place? Also if they are loosing you so much money from WDing them and they they just close Corp... why do you keep WDing 1 man corps then?

(Again not trying to troll, I'm seriously curious why)
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#925 - 2014-09-18 13:30:00 UTC
Matcha Mosburger wrote:
Not trying to be an ass or troll... But seriously why WD a 1 or even 2 or 3 man corp in the first place? Also if they are loosing you so much money from WDing them and they they just close Corp... why do you keep WDing 1 man corps then?

(Again not trying to troll, I'm seriously curious why)


Well, first of all let me repeat that neither I nor my corp have wardecced anyone, we live in lowsec and it's pretty active where we are, but I like the idea of using wardecs as a means of extortion. So, I woldn't deck a 1 or 2 man corp. But a 4 or 5 man corp? Sure, find out where they mine, post patrols there, offer an end to the war for 250-300M, that covers the 50m wardec and leaves a nice little chunk into the corps SRP fund, all for piddlign around for a day or two. Do that a couple of times a week, maybe ONLY when the corp wallet gets low; idk Ithink it's feasible. Not everyone will corp cycle.


\m/ O.o \m/

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Matcha Mosburger
Matsuko Holding
#926 - 2014-09-18 13:35:30 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:


Well, first of all let me repeat that neither I nor my corp have wardecced anyone, we live in lowsec and it's pretty active where we are, but I like the idea of using wardecs as a means of extortion. So, I woldn't deck a 1 or 2 man corp. But a 4 or 5 man corp? Sure, find out where they mine, post patrols there, offer an end to the war for 250-300M, that covers the 50m wardec and leaves a nice little chunk into the corps SRP fund, all for piddlign around for a day or two. Do that a couple of times a week, maybe ONLY when the corp wallet gets low; idk Ithink it's feasible. Not everyone will corp cycle.





Seems reasonable to me. When you WD a small 5 or 6 man corp like that are you having issues with them dissolving the corp as a way to dodge? (When i think of 5-6 man corps I think of 1 player, with 5-6 alt corps running a POS, and dissolving corp and dropping POS and the reassembling seems like a huge pain the ass to me.)

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#927 - 2014-09-18 13:43:18 UTC
Matcha Mosburger wrote:

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.



Because people are not supposed to be immune to PvP.

Because it's a sandbox, and "I feel like it" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

And lastly, because shooting other players is fun.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Dave Stark
#928 - 2014-09-18 13:47:42 UTC
Matcha Mosburger wrote:
Not trying to be an ass or troll... But seriously why WD a 1 or even 2 or 3 man corp in the first place? Also if they are loosing you so much money from WDing them and they they just close Corp... why do you keep WDing 1 man corps then?

(Again not trying to troll, I'm seriously curious why)


because he has a nicer view from his pos, you want that view.
Prince Kobol
#929 - 2014-09-18 13:48:15 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Matcha Mosburger wrote:
Not trying to be an ass or troll... But seriously why WD a 1 or even 2 or 3 man corp in the first place? Also if they are loosing you so much money from WDing them and they they just close Corp... why do you keep WDing 1 man corps then?

(Again not trying to troll, I'm seriously curious why)


Well, first of all let me repeat that neither I nor my corp have wardecced anyone, we live in lowsec and it's pretty active where we are, but I like the idea of using wardecs as a means of extortion. So, I woldn't deck a 1 or 2 man corp. But a 4 or 5 man corp? Sure, find out where they mine, post patrols there, offer an end to the war for 250-300M, that covers the 50m wardec and leaves a nice little chunk into the corps SRP fund, all for piddlign around for a day or two. Do that a couple of times a week, maybe ONLY when the corp wallet gets low; idk Ithink it's feasible. Not everyone will corp cycle.




Yet one or two man corps can have more isk then large alliances. Just because a corp has small numbers it does not mean that they are poor.

Also why do I need a reason to war somebody?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#930 - 2014-09-18 13:50:31 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:

Also why do I need a reason to war somebody?


Because forcing you to have a reason is the first step in handcuffing player freedom, of course.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Josef Djugashvilis
#931 - 2014-09-18 13:56:30 UTC
Once a person leaves a station, they should accept the fact that they may be attacked by anyone for any reason.

Any player can in fact attack any other player once the intended target has undocked.

This does not mean that a player cannot use all the means made available by CCP to avoid padding someone's billboard, including corp hopping etc.

CCP have made it this way because they wish it to be this way.

If you are not happy with this, post your suggested improvement in the appropriate forum please.

This is not a signature.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#932 - 2014-09-18 14:13:40 UTC
Matcha Mosburger wrote:
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:


Well, first of all let me repeat that neither I nor my corp have wardecced anyone, we live in lowsec and it's pretty active where we are, but I like the idea of using wardecs as a means of extortion. So, I woldn't deck a 1 or 2 man corp. But a 4 or 5 man corp? Sure, find out where they mine, post patrols there, offer an end to the war for 250-300M, that covers the 50m wardec and leaves a nice little chunk into the corps SRP fund, all for piddlign around for a day or two. Do that a couple of times a week, maybe ONLY when the corp wallet gets low; idk Ithink it's feasible. Not everyone will corp cycle.





Seems reasonable to me. When you WD a small 5 or 6 man corp like that are you having issues with them dissolving the corp as a way to dodge? (When i think of 5-6 man corps I think of 1 player, with 5-6 alt corps running a POS, and dissolving corp and dropping POS and the reassembling seems like a huge pain the ass to me.)


Well like I said, I/we have never actually done it, it's just a concept that I think belongs in Eve. And some corps will undoubtedly recycle themselves, but some wont.
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Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.


yeahsounds like a waste of time to me.

\m/ O.o \m/

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#933 - 2014-09-18 14:39:08 UTC
Matcha Mosburger wrote:
Not trying to be an ass or troll... But seriously why WD a 1 or even 2 or 3 man corp in the first place? Also if they are loosing you so much money from WDing them and they they just close Corp... why do you keep WDing 1 man corps then?

(Again not trying to troll, I'm seriously curious why)



On our case sometimes peopel PAY us to war dec even a 3 man corp. Go ask that person why they hate you so much. We do not care why.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#934 - 2014-09-18 14:40:39 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

Also why do I need a reason to war somebody?


Because forcing you to have a reason is the first step in handcuffing player freedom, of course.



We always have a reason.

a) we were paid.
b) target was flying something funny without proper respect to eve gods
c) someone locked one of our chars or alts without apologies.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#935 - 2014-09-18 14:44:43 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Matcha Mosburger wrote:

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.



Because people are not supposed to be immune to PvP.

Because it's a sandbox, and "I feel like it" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

And lastly, because shooting other players is fun.



Shooting players that don't shoot back is fun, lol


I think it's more of a case of, hound the carebears, they've ruined our game, they must pay.
Solecist Project
#936 - 2014-09-18 14:49:23 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Matcha Mosburger wrote:

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.



Because people are not supposed to be immune to PvP.

Because it's a sandbox, and "I feel like it" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

And lastly, because shooting other players is fun.



Shooting players that don't shoot back is fun, lol


I think it's more of a case of, hound the carebears, they've ruined our game, they must pay.

I can't accept this generalisation.

Not ALL of us shoot people for lulz or tears, okay?

Whenever people raged at me for ganking them,
I tried explaining them the issue calmly and based on reason.

when one did not want to understand... I blocked them and that's it.

That being said, of over 800 pods I've killed less than 20 every complained about it.


So ... even though you are mostly right about a big group of people who just
love to pick on others, not ALL gankers are alike.

Thanks.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#937 - 2014-09-18 14:54:02 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Matcha Mosburger wrote:

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.



Because people are not supposed to be immune to PvP.

Because it's a sandbox, and "I feel like it" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

And lastly, because shooting other players is fun.



Shooting players that don't shoot back is fun, lol


I think it's more of a case of, hound the carebears, they've ruined our game, they must pay.


They haven't ruined it, but they're trying to.

#DeleteTheWeak

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#938 - 2014-09-18 15:02:42 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Matcha Mosburger wrote:

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.



Because people are not supposed to be immune to PvP.

Because it's a sandbox, and "I feel like it" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

And lastly, because shooting other players is fun.



Shooting players that don't shoot back is fun, lol


I think it's more of a case of, hound the carebears, they've ruined our game, they must pay.

I can't accept this generalisation.

Not ALL of us shoot people for lulz or tears, okay?

Whenever people raged at me for ganking them,
I tried explaining them the issue calmly and based on reason.

when one did not want to understand... I blocked them and that's it.

That being said, of over 800 pods I've killed less than 20 every complained about it.


So ... even though you are mostly right about a big group of people who just
love to pick on others, not ALL gankers are alike.

Thanks.


I realise that Sole, but there's definitely an element in the community that think along the lines I described. I should have added a foot note. But anyway those it applies to know who they are.
Carl Pator
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#939 - 2014-09-18 15:13:30 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Matcha Mosburger wrote:

Still leaves me wondering why the OP or anyone else would WD a 1 man corp though.



Because people are not supposed to be immune to PvP.

Because it's a sandbox, and "I feel like it" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

And lastly, because shooting other players is fun.


Which of these activities require you to have an active war dec to accomplish?

Why should your "because I feel like it" outweight someone "because I don't feel like it"? You want to make someone feel like it give them a reason. Right now you just sound like the school yard bully asking why no one wants to play with him.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#940 - 2014-09-18 15:19:40 UTC
Carl Pator wrote:


Why should your "because I feel like it" outweight someone "because I don't feel like it"? You want to make someone feel like it give them a reason. Right now you just sound like the school yard bully asking why no one wants to play with him.


It's called non-consensual PVP, and it's an intended part of the game. If someone "doesn't feel like it," they're probably playing the wrong game, and I don't mean that in a snarky "lolzololz go back to wow" way, it's just a simple fact of Eve.

\m/ O.o \m/

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