Test Server Feedback

We've given the reasons before in a few places, but basically it boils down to this - seeding supercapitals upsets far more people than it pleases, and the benefits we get out of seeding them are near negligible. Also there are knock-on effects, for instance, people want supers (and demand is very difficult to organically generate on Sisi), so they need to build them. To build them someone needs to set up a ton of stuff and interact with many mechanics. This is high quality coverage for these mechanics (such as sov, POSes, S&I) that would otherwise possibly not be touched.

Now, as to whether or not we should be making it much easier for people to build, etc. That's another question entirely (I think yes btw).

I never really thought about it in that sense, the testing given while people build the supers, fair enough reason. As for making them easier to build, I have a few suggestions as well.
1 : Try making a moveme bot command to give skills to make alliances and build super capital ships.

2 : (more out of the box here, but worth suggesting) changing timers on the test server for territorial claim units, ihubs and ship assembly arrays to a low time, e.g a minute. Obviously this would take alot of effort and may be inconvenient in ways, but meh, worth a suggestion.

3: Changing the build time for supercapitals in a pos to a low time, again, difficult to do and such.

I actually posted about this in a different thread, but right now my favourite solution (which also would be an enabler to mirror much more rapidly once the tech is in place for that) is an implant that reduces build (and maybe anchor) timers by x%. Much better for Super construction than any other kind of construction, doesn't mess with code, doesn't give anyone skills that they haven't earned.

I don't believe this would solve anything, just take stuff away from people for no reason.

And people wonder why your company is imploding, believing in broken azz logic like this.

That sounds like a really good idea tbh. I'm all for that, but don't make the reduction too high. Want at least a few days to build them minumum, or maybe a week or so. Instant supers is not good still =)

Why, what does getting a super on the test server instantly cause that would be so ground breaking? How exactly do you "abuse" something on a test server? There are already engagement rules as it is and unless you have a second account/ alt or a friend, that super is stuck in the system its built in.

You're misunderstanding me, but you're still correct,

What I'm saying is they want features tested, but they also want to see how features affect this small part of the player base. And the thing about bugs is, if everyone had level 5 for skill x and a module that required skill x was only being used by players that had perfect skills, nobody would ever know that when the module is used by a player with skill x at 2 or 1 would have bug x that causes [insert really bad thing here].

The server does push code, but it also gathers feedback from players, in order to get decent feedback they need a wide variety of skill levels in the mix, simply giving max skills for mod x would cause issues because CCP would never recieve statictics related to lower skill leveled related to mod x.

So while SiSi might be a release testing server, it's also a place for CCP to farm the life of information out of us, hence why they always request "A good mix of ships" for masstests, and are stingy about ever giving out free skills (Like when marauders got updated).

Any free skills etc would also deteriorate the incentive of Masstest SP.

In turn, the skill levels you have are actually just as important as anything else, because skill level related bugs will obviously exist as skills get tweaked, updated, removed, or changed.

Why? Ask someone instead. The only thing you want to 'test' is popping some carrier so you have a giggle.

Same stupid logic goes for supers, what in god name is there to 'test' ?? Can my sooper droneboat kill all other boats?

Maybe, just maybe supers can be given out when they change them until then ask pandemic legion about them.