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Deirdre Semmes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-09-14 06:16:38 UTC
Hi,

Names have been changed to protect anonymity. Plus I don't want to be moderated out! :)

There is this person at Jita 4-4, lets call him Professor Peter, or 'Pepe'. Pepe is posted routinely at 4-4 with a Stratios with a suspect status. Meaning everyone can shoot at him. If you shoot him, only him can shoot back.

I don't understand how it can go well for him? I know his intent, he want people to aggress him so he can retaliate and kill them, but how can it work. I mean don't he find sometime 6+ people ganking on him? Or a T3 cruiser attacking him and eating him alive? I don't understand how his strategy can work.

So, this might sound weird to ask this question here. This is not about the player or a complaint, this is about understanding the game mechanism... This guy is probably gaining money from what he does, but I don't get how he gets reliably the upper hand in fact. Even if he has friends ambushed nearby, they can't help him as he is suspect. Unless they are fleeted perhaps?
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#2 - 2014-09-14 06:34:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaea Astridsson
tl;dr If you engage him with something he feels he cannot kill or tank for 60s, he'll dock up.

There are a couple ways one could engage - one would be to hope the pilot is not fully aware and land a tornado gank squad. Fit up a Statios as tanked out as you can in EFT then build a Tornado and go do the math on how many Tornado Pilots you'd need.

Second would be to have someone bait him into an engagement, getting him to show his hand and agress. Problem on the second one though is he will probably be in something with an insane tank, to survive the 60s weapon timer and if he spots a situation that seems hairy he'll just wait it out, likely with the help of neutral logi.

Thing being, if he's aware of his situation and in something that could survive 60 seconds with logi support he has a sure get away into the station.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Crimewatch#Weapons_Timer

edit: If you sit around and notice any logistical boats, Scythe, Augoror, Exequror Osprey and their T2 counterparts - you could possibly nab one of them when they go suspect repping him. Either having good bookmarks around the station so you can warp right on top of them or have someone in fleet with combat scanner do fleet warps to scanned down ships that matched the type you want to land at.

Get on Comms, or die typing.
Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-09-14 06:55:12 UTC
I do know there is a guy who does something similar and has like 4 Nestor's just off grid and he switches to counters of whatever agressed him. Not saying it's him but that happens in any trade hub. It is just a form of baiting and some ships he kills have shiny mods on.

Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if you're in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. Pub Channel: Lost Souls Trading Post
cpt Varox
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-09-14 07:59:18 UTC
He uses neutral reps ..aka friends alts (more probable) to keep him repped up. Dont fight station games its stupid and rigged against you from the start.
Deirdre Semmes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-09-14 08:19:23 UTC
Oh, I don't intent to, my guess is that if he sits there, he has the cards in hands.

Just witnessed a Tengu attacking him, he was downed to half armor, then the armor did not budge a notch, or perhaps one every 8 secs... Then he disappeared into station and popped back into another ship, don't remember the name...

So that's that... If he can't kill the aggressor, he tanks until the 60 secs are elapsed. It makes sense, tactically wise. Now this guy is spending all his time on that...
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-09-14 08:27:41 UTC
Hmmm... what could possibly go wrong

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-09-17 01:55:15 UTC
On top of what has been mentioned, these players will sometimes go suspect status then dock up for 10 minutes. Once they undock, they hope someone aggresses within the 5 minutes left on their timer. If so, they will re-dock, and then come back again once their suspect status is up in the hopes you are still around. If so they will stay have a limited engagement timer with you, but no other players can engage them anymore.

This is what was done during Burn Jita, as fighting as suspect would be a sure death with that many players around.

Hey guys.