EVE General Discussion

EDIT: Correction, if he'd been in Love Squad at the time he was ganked, the killmail would have him in Love Squad. It does not. He was not awoxed.

No-one seems to have highlighted the oddity of warping to an acceleration gate with 27 catalysts on d-scan.

They were probably bouncing from site to site hoping to catch someone landing.

a few notes for people not familiar with the guy talking about an incursion fit ship.
Incursion ships are put together with the least practical buffer for the application. they use shiny mods to free up space. that he has 2 A types and a DCU on there makes it overtanked as far as mods go by incursion standards. most people run less. that he only had 127K ehp still suggests he had damage rigs.
I agree with the people on the side of the catalysts here. 27 toons. either a hell of a computer, or a couple of them, if it really was a boxer. and he still didn't manage to kill you. you're complaining that a guy with enough time to run 27 accounts, for a godawful plex total didn't manage to kill your mach? FFS man, deal with it.

Welcome to new eden sir. anything expensive, people will want to take away from you. especially as an incursion runner. the only reasons the guy likely didn't do you in was overheating, and perhaps not accounting for boosts.

and to the other people: Incursions aren't missions. the meta is towards pirate battleships, with logi support. missiles are fairly strictly not allowed. about 2 groups allow them. just because you have a random fit which manages a better EHP number doesn't mean it's useful. and the guy with the rattle fit, you're talking about EHP numbers on one of the three battleship hulls in the game with a resist bonus per BS skill level, which is designed, like the rest of the scorpion hull based ships, around a stupid number of mid slots. also, passive tank in incursions is useless, as is local tank. the incoming DPS is intended to require a fleet to deal with, at least in HQs, which is about the only place you'll see a double A type mach. you use remote reps. he was warping to a beacon with an acceleration gate, rather than a normal gate or a mission gate you need to scan down. so A), he couldn't take gate as soon as he landed, he needed to get up to speed, and B), anyone else could easily warp to it.

for that matter, many communities will tell people with thick tanks to reduce it, as it isn't needed. although, if you can't replace it, don't fly it.

And yes, it is rather scatter brained. sorry.

Bad luck I guess then that they happened to warp from outside d-scan range within a window that let them get there before you?

And that no-one saw them at any of the other gates.

And that none of the intel channels picked it up.

That sure is some mighty bad... luck.

So Beers would be being honest if he said,

"I know how to fit for incursions."

I would accept that. I won't accept it as an argument for "ganking is not balanced" though.

Then you're complaint is irrelevant because, as has been patiently explained to you, the value is irrelevant.

Here is the TMC article for those interested. http://themittani.com/news/alod-big-game-hunters

Edit - and Yes, this gank did involved poor fitting choices by the Golem. No DCU, only 1 invul, no LSE, and a focus on active tank which is pretty useless against nados. Obviously I would never feel comfortable flying this expensive of a ship in highsec because it is a true gank magnet. Also, Pith C used, ack. Min fit for this ship officer fit would be 2 Pith A's and an LSE + DCU, can drop the EM mod. also would put in some shield rigs.

Those are not destroyers.

This is some severely delayed reaction.

In those months you could've learned a balance between isk and effectiveness like the rest of the sensible community. all it takes is EFT and some noodling.