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But to the topic, i guess it would be time to see the promised small balance changes as a result of shorter cycles soon (probably not oceanus), i mean when was kronos and someone still has to look at armor vs shield jfs for example...

What the hell wrong with your priorities in this game? blackops, stealth bombers, recons, T3, capitals, POS code...aaaand the list goes on and you pick this to patch ??!!!...this is sad day.

CIDER upgrade for the EVE Mac client

The underpinnings of the EVE Mac client gets a big update with Oceanus that addresses several issues.

Hooray!! Maybe the Mac client will stop sucking!

Wow. People here are forgotting this is a new RELEASE model, not a DEVELOPMENT one.

I honestly prefer to have a small number of changes/additions/improvements every 5 weeks rather than to wait a full half year to get anything aside from very small code updates.

That means we can get changes and rebalances very often, as they can be ready for the next mini-expansion, instead of having to wait several months to be deployed along with other things that take much more time. Also, the rebalances are mostly small changes, so that if something is wrong they don't break the game. With this release model, the game doesn't remain broken because of that rebalance for 6 months, but just 5 weeks.

But, not everything rebalance-related takes the same time. That Interdictor/Interceptor rebalance is just small changes over their last rebalance that can be released now, while other, more complex rebalances take place. I'm talking about BLOPS, other T2, T3, and possibly capital ships. What's the difference? Interdictors and interceptors already passed their big rebalance; this one is just tweaks to optimization. Those other ship classes still have to pass it, and that one is a big rebalance, so it takes more time. Perhaps we'll begin to see the first result on the Phoebe mini-expansion.

Much people here also forget that CCP has, as any other gaming company, many different departments, and each one works on one part of the game. With the new release system, each time one of them finishes something they can release it in less that weeks. For example, the art department. They've done a great job lately, keeping the game's visuals fresh and awesome. The department related with graphics managed to make EVE use a different rendering system that 1) leads to faster renders with less CPU load and 2) allows future projects such as ship skins. The languages department managed to translate the whole game to French, which is awesome for anyone who speaks it and anyone who wants to learn it (such as me; EVE did help me with English).

But the worst thing that is coming from too many players here is that they think "these changes/features do not affect me -> this is wasted development time, this is the worst expansion ever, blablabla", when perhaps even the first sentence is wrong (French translation -> more people playing -> more content for everyone). And when they finally get changes/features about something they do really like, someone else will start ranting about they don't want their modus operandi changed. And someone else is going to ask for more because it "doesn't" affect them. Because sometimes it seems everythig we do in the forums is ask for more, more and more, without considering what we have is great and that working on a huge game such as EVE is not easy task. CCP is one of the best gaming companies I've ever seen; it makes things no one else would even dare to consider, it is continously taking player feedback, it promotes players to speak in the name of parts of the community... yet much people here just like to rant too much.

I've been plaing this game for 4 years now. I've seen it only improve and become more awesome in that time. Keep up the good work, CCP.

Please fix Nestor.

My proposal is this:

Remove the energy turret bonus and add 5% extra for drone damage per level = Very unique Drone ship

Then reduce the insane arm rep bonus to 50% and add a jumpdrive max 7ly with no possibility to bridge. That leaves Black Ops ships unique in their own way.

Dont need cov ops cyno.

Thats it..


With this, nestor becomes a nullsec exploration vessel for many many players.

the art team has done a good job on both the w/holes and the cloaking imo.

i still have an issue of these 6 week expansions, not to the fact that it is every 6 weeks but the fact we don't get real time to give feed back to the devs 18 days for feed back, changes and re-testing isn't that long.

imo we should be getting detail of what is coming out in Phoebe or is this a case that ccp hasn't worked that out yet.

Wot? Still no new hull model for Dominix?

CCP using a lot of words to say there is no real patch on September 30.


Playing since 2010 and I have yet to see any real major change to eve. Sure lots of small things but nothing that's really changed gameplay in any meaningful way.

How about making sov mechanics fun? How about changing jump mechanics so small alliances have a real chance? How about delayed local in nullsec so pvp is fun and there is actual risk vs reward?

Hopefully one day I read one of these blogs and see some real changes happen to Eve.

Where is the part that should motivate me to go eve online?

Here is the Dev note which puts a Date on when to expect some SOV changes. For the first time I recall, a year is mentioned, and its not 2020.