EVE General Discussion

Oh jezz, I was wondering when I would catch this, I haven't been paying to much attention to the thread as both of the ones on GD have exploded making impossible to keep up, for me at least, but.


Since when did EVE-Online become Carebear-Hugz-Forever-And-Dancing-Around-Singing-Kumbaya-Online?


In EVE it is encourage to be a villain, which is open to interpretation of course.

But if you think; "Hey Imma Wardec and you blow up your internet space ship for giggles' And 'Hey you joined a player corp, welcome to the real part of Highsec, Here's a Wardec and a Free Insta-lock Legion free of charge'

Is harassment.

Compared to, "Hey, Imma Dox you, find where you live, post it online, call your phone, leave messages at your door of your family, drop your phone number on 4chan, call your place of work, and make your life a living hell.


You are over sensitive, and need more mental help then the people you are calling the bullies.



Also what's with everyone saying, "Pick your targets more carefully?" It's popping up in this thread and I haven't heard that particular, daft, and idiotic reason as of yet.

It's like saying,

"HEY PICK YOUR PIZZA CAREFULLY, IT MIGHT SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR ON YOU!"

I paid for my goddamned pizza and I want it the way I ordered it. If I happen to pick a pizza that is too spicy or has a topping I dislike then it is my fault. However my Pizza shouldn't be taken away from concerning to the pizza own will.

Not sure how this misinformation managed to make it uncontested for 10+ pages.

CCP have blanket declared ANY method of evading CONCORD as a bannable exploit. The specific mechanics don't matter. EDIT: For the lazy, here is one of those very clear red posts on the matter, though there have been other statements made to the same effect.

In contrast, regarding your demand for proof that dec-dodging is not an exploit, CCP have NOT declared dec-dodging an exploit nor banned anyone for doing it in the several years it's been a viable and trivial mechanic for avoiding wars when you have no in-space assets to protect.

At this point, the burden of proof is on you.

Further, if you *really* think it's an exploit, a forum post is the incorrect way to bring attention to it. There are specific channels and guidelines for reporting suspected exploits to CCP that I advise you to use. I suggest this solely for your benefit so as to avoid a lock or more severe GM reprisal for improperly and publicly describing a potential exploit. The fact that these channels are out of sight and off the forum and would thus spare us having to listen to your prattle are, I assure you, merely incidental and in no way motivate my suggestion that you follow the correct and official guidelines for reporting exploits.

EDIT: Though since proof is so important to you, here is the proof for my counterclaim that you are, at best, very badly misinformed and therefore not fit to be discussing these mechanics or, at worst, merely here to troll GD (see #3, #4, #6, and #7 specifically).

So? The rules are very clearly subject to change based on which GM you get. They declared any external way of bumping people out of POS shields an exploit too, and N3 still does it publicly and unapologetically.

And they are not punished.

If the rules do not apply equally, they don't really apply at all.



Nor did they declare killboard padding using the bounty MTU trick an exploit either. Until they did.




I did none of those things. I said that one exists, that's all.

You've spelled out the details clearly for this corp cycling, dec dodging mechanic you claim is an exploit. So are you saying that you *do* think this is an exploit and you are wilfully violating CCP's rules on how to properly report exploits to CCP? Or are you saying you don't actually think it's an exploit and you've been violating CCP's forum rules on flamebait and troll posting for the last dozen pages? Or are you merely claiming that you like to toss out scary words like "exploit" in grandiose and inaccurate fashion in order to trump up the rhetoric surrounding your otherwise flimsy arguments?

Just, you know... seeking clarification there.

And while your flagging everyone, why not extend the time for global criminal flags to 24 hours. Then you wouldn't care about single one man corps.

I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.

The Rules:
10. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited.

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I think there should be a 50m corp start up cost. That way players can still avoid npc taxs and war decs, but it will cost them just as much as the agressors if they do stuff to **** people off.

Post 586 guys..

I have often found myself aligned in viewpoint with you Kaarous, however I completely disagree here. Rules are applied as CCP see fit - I would strongly recommend that pilots do not attempt to evade Concord's retribution.

1 advantage I see the ability to get back at incursion runner that sit on their high horse will be kicked in the face