EVE General Discussion

"it's only pvp when i do it".

No, that would be the surrender mechanic.

This is a broken mechanic that is being exploited to achieve the same results as a surrender but with no consequences.

You sound as if you disapprove of people picking their battles and only engaging in those they think they can win. I call it smart.



Maybe you missed some of my earlier posts in this thread. You seem unaware that many wardeccers aren't after a fight, they're after a payout. It's extortion. They dont "pick a fight" with the veterans here and there because they dont want a target who fights back, they want the little guy, who's better off just paying the extortion fee so that he can go about his business unhampered.



Relevance to the topic at hand?

The surrender mechanic is different. That's how you fleet but only if the aggressor lets you. You are basically asking permission to be left alone and paying for that. If the aggressor says no, you would prefer people to be stuck in war for eternity?

Leaving a corp is a perfectly valid tactic. Disbanding a corp is a perfectly valid tactic. Even if they banned the CEO from making a new corp for 7 days, they could just make one on an alt and join it.

You are asking for ridiculous changes which would make absolutely no difference, and all because you want to be able to wardec people who have absolutely nothing to protect and expect them to actively protect their nothing. Pick better targets = problem solved.

Yeah, in that it's not used in any way because dec dodging is better, cheaper, and has no consequences.




No, and I didn't say that. You are really starting to develop a bad habit of just making **** up.




Did you even read it?

No one who leaves a corp during a war is permitted to join another player corp, or create one, for 7 days.




Once again, you are just making up stuff.

I want player corps to be the optimal path for pretty much everything in highsec. I want NPC corps to be highly sub optimal after you've been in one for 30 days past your trial period.

Being in a player corp should be more than just a glorified chat channel and a station hangar. Being in one at all would be something worth protecting.

Shots fired!!

I, too, like to marginalise real retards by comparing them to people I don't like just because of my inferiority complex.

Naturally, of course, you would be the one advising ignorance as well, wouldn't you. You're so good at it, maybe you are the best person for the job giving him a few pointers.

Also, Lucas, grow the **** up.

There are plenty of people I respect and even like on these forums. I've had heated disagreements with many of them. Do I like them less? No. If we were at a pub, I'd probably have punched a few of them, and them me. Then I would have shouted a round of beers and moved on to the next topic. I've had disagreements with Ramona, Mr Epeen, and many others that I don't consider somehow 'less sane' just by virtue of being in disagreement. We share our perspectives, sometimes **** hits the fan, but the people calling other people retards....

That's a problem. I have no respect for that. It doesn't deserve respect. It just barely qualifies as vitriol-worthy. You don't qualify for even being spat on as far as I'm concerned.

People aren't suddenly less sane just because they have a different opinion to you, especially when you're the one that came into this thread firing off hostility like it was candy. Seriously, what were you thinking just prancing in here all angry like as if someone had insulted your ******* mother? It's a video game dude. Calm your ****.

You miss one important point that goes with more people in Hi-Sec....they aren't there for the pvp. Only conclusion I can come to is if someone is in hi-sec for pvp what they are really looking for is easy kills.

And if someone brings more people, get some friends of your own. That's what they say to all the miners and haulers. There are many avenues open for someone to get the war they want.

And can only be used if you have absolutely nothing to protect.

So allowing wardeccers to lock people into a corp or have to sit in an NPC corp, and all so you can wardec people who will STILL NOT FIGHT OR PAY YOU.

Actually, this is exactly why many people are in high sec. Some of my best fights have gone down in high sec, including solo skirmishes against small fleets, whelping in high security systems by taking on war targets with my security status down low enough for the police to come after me while I shoot a Thorax (which I killed just before dying to the po-po, it was a damn good fight and a lot of fun, and as a result of my whelping, I helped save our newbfleet from getting pulverised by said Thorax). Dude, I had a 15 minute long frigate duel with a wartarget in highsec. 15 ******* minutes dude. Do you know how unheard of that is? It pretty much never happens.

I'd link the video but I keep getting accused of shameless plugging..... ah, **** it.

There's excellent PVP to be had all over New Eden. That's because no single area of it is excluded from PVP. If you're staying in high sec to avoid PVP, you might manage to actually succeed, but if you're looking for PVP, there's zero reason to avoid highsec. There's nothing visa-versa about it.