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Why can't you password protect an SMA?

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Private Bank
Greifing is not a crime
#1 - 2014-09-10 14:53:41 UTC
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-09-10 14:59:34 UTC
Why do you need to?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-09-10 15:03:50 UTC
What Ramona is saying is, if you build a corp around people you can trust and work with, and have passed security checks, and you know how to set roles, which is corp management 101 (ie something you should learn or already know prior to setting up a corp and recruiting people), then you don't need a password.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-09-10 15:06:43 UTC
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


Because CCP is ******** sometimes... This is how majority of thefts occur in WH space. It seems like an easy change to make as well - just copy-paste code from secure freight containers..
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-09-10 15:07:38 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


Because CCP is ******** sometimes... This is how majority of thefts occur in WH space. It seems like an easy change to make as well - just copy-paste code from secure freight containers..


No, the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-09-10 15:09:36 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


Because CCP is ******** sometimes... This is how majority of thefts occur in WH space. It seems like an easy change to make as well - just copy-paste code from secure freight containers..


No, the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.


troll much?

welcome to my troll block list.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-09-10 15:10:48 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


Because CCP is ******** sometimes... This is how majority of thefts occur in WH space. It seems like an easy change to make as well - just copy-paste code from secure freight containers..


No, the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.


troll much?

welcome to my troll block list.


WOOHOO!!

Wait....


Didn't you add me to that months ago already?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-09-10 15:11:13 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


Because CCP is ******** sometimes... This is how majority of thefts occur in WH space. It seems like an easy change to make as well - just copy-paste code from secure freight containers..


No, the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.


troll much?

welcome to my troll block list.

lalalalalalalalalalaicanthearyousoimnotwronglalalalalalalalalalal
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-09-10 15:14:18 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.


Im not sure how pointing out that industrial AWOXing can happen is trolling.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-09-10 15:15:04 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.


Im not sure how pointing out that industrial AWOXing can happen is trolling.


Neither am I, but I don't argue with children.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-09-10 15:17:16 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


Because CCP is ******** sometimes... This is how majority of thefts occur in WH space. It seems like an easy change to make as well - just copy-paste code from secure freight containers..


No, the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all.


troll much?

welcome to my troll block list.

lalalalalalalalalalaicanthearyousoimnotwronglalalalalalalalalalal


And another one to block...

Sorry OP, looks like your post got derailed.

There are like 10-15 forums trolls here that do nothing but ****-post on the forums, it becomes a much better forum experience once you block them all, like scammers in Jita local.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2014-09-10 15:19:36 UTC
So yes, as Im the "only" person apparently who hasnt derailed the thread by talking about trolls;

Can you tell me why you need to lock your corp members out of your SMA?

If you dont trust them it might be time to break out the kickhammer

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-09-10 15:22:28 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
....it becomes an echo chamber once you block the experienced voices of reason....


FTFY.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Xuse Senna
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#14 - 2014-09-10 15:26:30 UTC
Trust Issues

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7501/mindgamesceptionfinaldr.jpg

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2014-09-10 15:31:14 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:

And another one to block...

Success!

\(^o^)/
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-09-10 15:34:06 UTC
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?


I think this will be adressed down the line once POS code and roles are rewritten. Would make operational security much easier to handle.

There is also another possibility - CCP intentionally wants to keep SMAs unprotected. Corp thefts, like it or not, do make the news.

But its silly, because how much stuff can you really take from an SMA - some mods, a couple of tengus? Couple of bil? Come on, its childs play. The real big thefts occur on director-level, and involve master wallets, not some line members' SMA with a ratting tengu in it.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2014-09-10 15:40:25 UTC
Private Bank wrote:
Hi! Seems very weird from my sight. Why can't you password protect an SMA? from other members in corp?
If you lock other corp members out of it they can't refit ships on the fly unless there's an Orca with the SMB opened to corpmates available, something of some importance when you live out of a POS.

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-09-10 15:44:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jur Tissant
Probably because CCP wants to keep awoxing alive. I mean, they made an entire trailer about it didn't they?

Corp friendly fire, restrictions on kicking undocked players from corps, and this are all examples. These mechanics have few practical purposes beyond allowing players to go rogue.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#19 - 2014-09-10 15:56:39 UTC
Jur Tissant wrote:
Probably because CCP wants to keep awoxing alive. I mean, they made an entire trailer about it didn't they?

Corp friendly fire, restrictions on kicking undocked players from corps, and this are all examples. These mechanics have few practical purposes beyond allowing players to go rogue.


Forming a corp should be like *******

No glove, no love

Never put it in someone you dont know where theyve been

or be like me and keep it in the family.

Oh..

Wait....

No... THats not right...

ew

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-09-10 15:57:28 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jur Tissant wrote:
Probably because CCP wants to keep awoxing alive. I mean, they made an entire trailer about it didn't they?

Corp friendly fire, restrictions on kicking undocked players from corps, and this are all examples. These mechanics have few practical purposes beyond allowing players to go rogue.


Forming a corp should be like *******

No glove, no love

Never put it in someone you dont know where theyve been

or be like me and keep it in the family.

Oh..

Wait....

No... THats not right...

ew


It's not?

I've been doing it wrong then.

And I regret nothing.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

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