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Gates!

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Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-09-10 07:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tian Toralen
I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#2 - 2014-09-10 07:05:13 UTC
It seems that you're less annoyed with gates and more annoyed at the risk associated with jumping through them.
Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-09-10 07:06:30 UTC
Well, for me I see it as a lottery, and I got enough of it. Also - I'm not paying 2 accounts, on principle, that's already hardcore gaming for me, not interested.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#4 - 2014-09-10 07:09:21 UTC
Fair enough, it's not for everyone. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to ask for your stuff though.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-09-10 07:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Tian Toralen wrote:
But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone


Quote:
The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.
UghStraightRoll
kinda deflated your own point there bucko.
Tian Toralen wrote:
Well, for me I see it as a lottery, and I got enough of it. Also - I'm not paying 2 accounts, on principle, that's already hardcore gaming for me, not interested.

then make friends, this much more than any other game relies upon your ability to do this
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-09-10 07:11:23 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Fair enough, it's not for everyone. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to ask for your stuff though.


Can i have your stuff??Shocked

No Worries

Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#7 - 2014-09-10 07:25:18 UTC
Tian Toralen wrote:

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.


For about 8 years of playing (7 years on this main account), I have never used a secondary account at the same time as my main one. This includes scouting.

I have "lived" in highsec, nullsec, lowsec and w-space for months at a time ranging from small independent alliances to powerblock behemoths, from thousand player blobs to solo and small gang PvP and I never felt a need to have or use a scouting alt.

It's simple, really:
- watch local;
- watch intel;
- use intel;
- watch dotlan;
- watch in-game map;

And the most useful one:
- learn the environment (where are the reds coming from, where are they based, who are they, what are they usually flying, how many of them are active in your current timezone, how do they roam around space, are there any solo hunters deployed near your space,...)

Once all of this turns into a habit and you know your environment well, moving through hostile space does not seem so hopeless. You'll need just a couple of seconds to gather all necessary information to move relatively safely without ever feeling the need for a scout alt.

But if you really hate gates, try out the wormhole space. Recent changes to wormhole mechanics even grants you protection if you are the one who scanned down a new wormhole.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-09-10 07:30:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
I am a single account holder and I've never multiboxed a single thing in my gaming life.

I'm doing just fine, thanks, and having the time of my life.

(There's a secret message for you in the title of that song btw, and I'm sure I can hear a tiny violin in there somewhere... I can haz your stuff?)

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Maruk Ihnati
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-09-10 07:44:24 UTC
Dude,

Tech 3 + mobile depot.
Dave Kitaro
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-09-10 08:13:49 UTC
Welcome to EVE Online: World of Stargates.
Gosti Kahanid
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#11 - 2014-09-10 09:21:48 UTC
To me this sounds like you don´t have a Problem with Gates but with Low/Null-Sec. in NullSec you have to work with others, there is almost no other way around it. LowSec is a little bit safer when you know what you´re doing, but there is still risk when you want to operate alone.

Have you considert returning to HighSec? There you don´t have to be concerned about your safety that much. In HighSec there are no GateCamps for normal Combat/Exploration-Ships as long as you don´t bling-fit them.
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-09-10 09:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
Derrick Miles wrote:
It seems that you're less annoyed with gates and more annoyed at the risk associated with jumping through them.



Seems to me, he's just fed up with choke points that can be easily camped.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-09-10 09:30:51 UTC
Gates are for wuzzies. Get a jump drive and never take a gate again!
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#14 - 2014-09-10 09:45:56 UTC
Continuously having to check local, having to get intel about other systems every 5 minutes... yeah, I see where the OP is coming from. It can get frustrating.I just blast through with a travel fit + roll the dice, blind jump best jump, 0 ****s given, because I don't want to annoy my mates on TS with constant requests. I don't do null anyway so getting caught is rare enough not to care.
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2014-09-10 10:06:03 UTC
Cebraio wrote:
Gates are for wuzzies. Get a jump drive and never take a gate again!

Except with your cyno alt...
Lucy Oreless
Rise of Rephaim
#16 - 2014-09-10 10:07:51 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Continuously having to check local, having to get intel about other systems every 5 minutes... yeah, I see where the OP is coming from. It can get frustrating.I just blast through with a travel fit + roll the dice, blind jump best jump, 0 ****s given, because I don't want to annoy my mates on TS with constant requests. I don't do null anyway so getting caught is rare enough not to care.


It seems incredibly strange to me that the things you guys dont like in a PVP-game is the adrenalin-rush ^^
The other thing i do not get is (from the op), why in the name of god are you in null-sec if your worst nightmare is to loose your ship on a gate? This is EVE, EVE is a pvp game, pvp meens people will shoot at you..

And no, it is not unfair that other people have friends, alts and systems in place to give them intel about there whereabouts etc.


 I did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....

Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-10 10:21:39 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Cebraio wrote:
Gates are for wuzzies. Get a jump drive and never take a gate again!

Except with your cyno alt...

Yeah, well it's a small sacrifice. Also Interceptor cynos work great!
Good Posting
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-09-10 10:22:55 UTC
Move to low sec if you don't like null. Low sec is a very nice place to live solo or with a small independent corp.

Less Blobs
No bomber gangs
Gate camps are rare
Less people = no tidi
No dictors = play with phat pods with very low chance of losing them
Can dock anywhere if you are not in fw
High sec markets are few jumps away
Lots of frigate/cruiser pvp with fw plexes
Juicy explorers looking for faction treasures (lol)
Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-09-10 10:51:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Damon Messer
get out of nullsec go back to highsec and you wont have to keep updated on what's beyong the next gate(aside from WT's)
Arla Sarain
#20 - 2014-09-10 10:57:09 UTC
Imagine if they'd removed gates

:O
:O
:O


Flame on, bittervets
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