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Eve size comparison Q: Cruise missiles and torps vs average frigate
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Ronin Silfar
Our Big Spaceship Gang
#1 - 2014-09-08 04:07:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ronin Silfar
We've all seen the size comparison videos and images of the various different ships in EVE, but I've not been able to find something that compares the size of various weapon charges to the ships. Specifically I'm curious about cruise missiles and torpedoes. If you look at the launcher on the Golem for example they appear small, but that is deceptive. Does anyone have some images to assist with this?

I know the game says they only have a volume of .05 m3, but they appear much larger than this, and would need to be if they have a hard time hitting small targets.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-09-08 04:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
if you click the icon in the info window the launchers will open up a viewing window with a length along axis measurement in top right corner.

Cruise/Torp launchers - 9m
Torp - 5m
Cruise - 6m
Citadel torp/cruise launchers - 66m/73m
Citadel Torp - 55m
Citadel cruise - 71m

Comparison
Rifter - 139m
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-09-08 04:18:31 UTC
i'm curious about this now. whether the sizes of charges, launchers / turrets, and ships have continuity / agreement.

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Ronin Silfar
Our Big Spaceship Gang
#4 - 2014-09-08 04:23:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ronin Silfar
Thanks Rowells. The numbers you provided are sufficient to provide a mental image. :)

Rain6637 wrote:
i'm curious about this now. whether the sizes of charges, launchers / turrets, and ships have continuity / agreement.

Yes I do as well which is partially the motivation for this post. The ships obviously do. We've seen enough comparisons of those, but I'd like to know if the charges abide by the same standards.
Aurora Tali
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-09-08 11:09:47 UTC
thinking about Frigates the (Single Person Fighting Ship like FightingJets here on earth) and they are big like a Boing and compare this to the Tiny X-Wing Tie Fighter starwars Models or that The Enterprice is big like the smallest Cruiser Vessel ..... EVE sizes are impressive :33
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-09-08 11:50:00 UTC
Aurora Tali wrote:
thinking about Frigates the (Single Person Fighting Ship like FightingJets here on earth) and they are big like a Boing and compare this to the Tiny X-Wing Tie Fighter starwars Models or that The Enterprice is big like the smallest Cruiser Vessel ..... EVE sizes are impressive :33

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2014-09-08 11:52:26 UTC
Aurora Tali wrote:
thinking about Frigates the (Single Person Fighting Ship like FightingJets here on earth)


No

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-09-08 12:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Frigates are a bit bigger than fighters. Smallest ones in game are more than 50 meters at their longest axis. The Incom T-65 X-wing Series is 12.5m long from nose to tail. How do I know this? The same reason I knew Boba Fett was a Mandalorian long before KOTOR came out and anyone knew what a Mandalorian was - I'm a total Star Wars fanboy.

Anyway, the point is, an EVE frigate without a capsuleer definitely requires a crew. Frigates in EVE are more comparable to ships like the Millenium Falcon in size, and frigates in Star Wars are bigger than frigates in EVE. The Nebulon-B is 150m long; the biggest frigates in EVE are Minmatar; Rifter hulls are about 128m long, and I think the Hound is 130-something.

EVE destroyers and cruisers are more comparable to Star Wars frigates; battlecruisers and battleships are comparable to various classes of Star Destroyers; some of the biggest ships like the Bulwark Cruisers and Super Star Destroyers are comparable to carriers and dreads, the Bulwark is especially close to dreads in usage as well.

In addition, most ships in Star Wars have incredibly short engagement ranges, usually nothing beyond 5km. There are a few exceptions like long range turbolasers on the Anakin Solo, a specially modified Star Destroyer used by his brother Jacen who becomes a sith named Darth Caedus, and then there's....


Oh.... I'm rambling, aren't I. Okay, I'll stop now Lol

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-09-08 12:11:08 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Oh.... I'm rambling, aren't I.


Yes.

Please dont when its about Star Wars.

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"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-09-08 12:13:54 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Oh.... I'm rambling, aren't I.


Yes.

Please dont when its about Star Wars.


No love for Star Wars hey. That's cool, I'm not THAT much of a fanboy that everyone has to like what I do..


/me pouts a little...

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#11 - 2014-09-08 12:17:38 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


No love for Star Wars hey.


No, just no love for made-up Star Wars is all.

Though to be honest, I still cringe when Lucas script of ROTJ calls that monstrosity of a ship a "frigate"

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-09-08 12:20:42 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


No love for Star Wars hey.


...made-up Star Wars ...


Um... Ramona...

I have some news that you might wanna sit down for...

It's kinda ALL made up.

sorry Roll

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-09-08 12:29:21 UTC
I suspected as much. we might want to avoid this topic for the sake of suspension of disbelief.

This preliminary shot of a manticore without torpedo launchers mounted shows the hard points are a considerable portion of the width of the hull. point of disbelief 1

This second shot of a manticore with its torpedo launchers mounted looks awesome, but the apparent size of the torpedos and the number of charges that can be held in cargo suggest 3D models are not directly related to charge stats. point of disbelief 2

unfortunately, it seems cargo hold is a magic pouch with potentially unlimited volume.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-09-08 13:16:18 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


No love for Star Wars hey.


...made-up Star Wars ...


Um... Ramona...

I have some news that you might wanna sit down for...

It's kinda ALL made up.

sorry Roll


You know very well what I mean

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ronin Silfar
Our Big Spaceship Gang
#15 - 2014-09-08 20:02:52 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
I suspected as much. we might want to avoid this topic for the sake of suspension of disbelief.

This preliminary shot of a manticore without torpedo launchers mounted shows the hard points are a considerable portion of the width of the hull. point of disbelief 1

This second shot of a manticore with its torpedo launchers mounted looks awesome, but the apparent size of the torpedos and the number of charges that can be held in cargo suggest 3D models are not directly related to charge stats. point of disbelief 2

unfortunately, it seems cargo hold is a magic pouch with potentially unlimited volume.


Yes that is something I've noticed in the past as well. Oh well, I can suspend my disbelief in this regard. I appreciate that the ship models are to scale. That's enough for me. It's subjectively "cooler" to be able to see our fancy modules on our ships, and that likely means blowing their size out of proportion in some cases. :)
Remissus Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-09-08 20:24:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Remissus Rinah
I'm pretty sure the in-universe explanation for cargoholds/containers with bigger insides than outsides is that they use 'Planck Generators.' ...Though, whether or not this explanation makes your suspension of disbelief any calmer... P

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-08 21:00:41 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


No love for Star Wars hey.


...made-up Star Wars ...


Um... Ramona...

I have some news that you might wanna sit down for...

It's kinda ALL made up.

sorry Roll


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WHAT....


Star Wars isn't real???

My world just collapsed.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-09-08 21:15:43 UTC
I haven't checked it in a while, but you can take a frigate and slap capital weapons (assuming you have proper launcher/turret slots) and see the model comparison is a bit off. You can't online or undock them but they do look funny in station.
Ronin Silfar
Our Big Spaceship Gang
#19 - 2014-09-09 03:02:08 UTC
Rowells wrote:
I haven't checked it in a while, but you can take a frigate and slap capital weapons (assuming you have proper launcher/turret slots) and see the model comparison is a bit off. You can't online or undock them but they do look funny in station.


Haha! I'll have to try that. :)
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-09-09 03:16:29 UTC
Offtopic post

'When a space missile half the size of my ship hits, it does no damage at all.'

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