Wormholes

Everyone seems to be sticking up for me and my buddies. We're a small corp in a C4 (3-4 active dudes on a good night) and apparently this patch has just been the worst thing ever for us.

But it's not.

We've got more connections, more opportunities for pew and for {Snip. -- ISD LackOfFaith}. We like it. In fact, the new C4 static is the best thing to happen since I first discovered wormholes and we don't even NEED to roll, we have that many connections. And if we DID need to roll, we'd just, well, roll and either get pew doing it or a new connections. The firg WHs are a bit ****, but meh.

So if you are unhappy with the changes, that's fine, I understand. Just letting you know you can complain for yourself, you don't need to complain for me and mine.

Also, with the massive exodus from WH space, if anyone is leaving a C5>C4 Mag, let us know. kthxbai.

Its fine that you like the changes, but your post is a bit confusing. You say that you really like C4 space, but yet you end on: looking for a C5 magnetar with C4 static?

Meh forum ate my post.

I was just confused by what you said as it implies C4 aren't very good for PVE, and you like them more for their PVP potential. I have a gut feeling this is what will eventually happen to C4 space - nice place to travel through, **** place to live in.

My opinion is my own and isn't an attempt to speak on behalf of others. Only wider point that i'm really worried about is further loss in wspace population. If others don't worry about it then that's their choice.

As the saying goes: opinions are like *** holes, everyones got one. But that doesn't mean we cant agree to disagree, unless of course you are on eve forums .

So you like the changes to C4s so much you do not want to run sites in them anymore?
You like them so much you want to leave the C4 you just moved into a few weeks ago after running out of fuel in your last one?
But you want one as a static for easy access to k-space? Can´t be because of pew because if noone lives there or runs sites there there is noone you could pew with your out of corp alts (because corpkillboard ).
Also this let´s-{Snip. -- ISD LackOfFaith}-in-a-c6 with a small corp (in your case c5) attitude got us into this mess of a patch. According to the devblog +80% NPC kills there.

Doesn't want to play detective.
Posts about corp killboard.
Is NPC posting alt.

The irony...

I don't see the irony. Care to explain?

The data no, the analysis maybe.

Let's face it, a KB at most paints a very incomplete picture of a corps' activity. Honestly I think I could shed better light than possibly you (which I wouldn't know since you are a forum alt). Why? Because overall the OP and my corp are pretty dang similar. Their corp is 27, mine is 26. Their KB is 130/153, mine is 148/49.

By simply looking at the numbers you could easily say we are both insignificant as a PVP entity. Or you could say we aren't very PVP focused. You could make all sorts of assumptions based off simply the numbers. And likely you would be mostly wrong.

As a similar sized entity I can tell you I have significant times where I log in and I just missed my corpmates, so I roam solo (dual T3 roaming setup). As such my engagement window is fairly small. And while I don't mind risking my ships for a potential good fight, I'm not one to derp them into a clear loss (running into a 15 man T3 gang with dual logi for example).

So what a KB doesn't show is how much I've roamed. It doesn't show how many entities I may have run into that I couldn't engage. It doesn't show how many engagemets I could engage but they got away. Nor does it show engagements I had where it ended in a stalemate.

What I can say for myself, is that I have roamed every night since the patch. In fact most of what I have done this summer is roam. I have little need for WH PVE as my other PVE activities net such huge amounts of isk I don't need to (I leave the sites for my corpies). And since the patch I have roamed thru many many WH systems. 2 nights ago it was a chain of about 15. in total I have run into 1 covert ops. I saw one astero on dscan briefly. And one group actively moving out (there was no way to find out the WH they were exiting from without popping probes, which cause a mass POS up/log off).

What's the point I'm trying to make? Just because a corp may have a small killboard, doesn't mean they aren't out there looking for pew.

The fact that you have replied to me twice about your NPC alt tells me everything I need to know about how much you care what people think about your NPC alt. As for things being better or worse post Hyperion patch I think it is largely self fulfilling prophecy. Instead of choosing to try to adapt to the changes everyone spent thousands of hours and pages convincing themselves, and others, that life in w-space would be impossible post-patch even before the patch came out. Because of that many made the choice to leave before even seeing how the patch might actually affect wormhole life. Now that has made life for those who live in w-space to shoot things even less fun, and the cycle continues.

Interesting how thousands of posts about how crappy w-space is doesn't draw more people to w-space. Who would have thought?

CivilWars:
I might have this wrong but didnt your corp quit WH space just befor the patch, If I'm right Im not sure how your qualified to poke the finger at other people voicing their concerns over the new patch.
If I've got it wrong Id like to be the first to welcome Triumvirate. allience to worm hole space.
PS loved your last match in the AT

Yes we do agree. My only reason for posting in this thread is to say that we, like the OP are "fine". IE we don't plan on giving up on WH life and move out. BUT that doesn't change the fact that this patch in my opinion has had an overall negative effect on WH space.