Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Explosion velocity is typically the killer in this equation yes. Pushing a target up to whatever size catagories fury/rage missile eR is difficult enough as is but then when you consider than an afterburning caracal takes 1/6th of the damage of missiles fired at it you have a problem.

Remember kids that the missile formula works via depreciating ratios. As the ratio of sR/eR reaches 1, the formula switches to eV/tV which is almost always in the targets favour. For comparison, one does not simply evade damage from a kiting turret ship when actually being kited.

I'm getting a bit sick of people saying there's something wrong with light missiles, they already have very low dps. If you're getting kited by a condor or an interceptor and you are buffer fit it doesn't matter if it's doing 50 dps or 500 dps you're going to die it's just a question of time.

The problem is there needs to be an effective counter to these type of ships, a fast tackler with decent tank that can eat missiles in the face and burn right at them to take them down. I started using an executioner and an atron for the job of hunting kitey condors in low sec, and i had some joy even though im terrible. The problem is interceptors are too fast to catch, you can't even hit them with light missiles. There would be a lot less of them around if we had a cheap viable counter to hunt them down with, they just need their speed reduced and maybe make one or two of the t1 frigates cheap fast tackle specialists by buffing their speed slightly.

Firstly, I am replying from my phone so I will attempt to be brief.

I like the idea of rapid launchers, I think they still have some flaws to be polished out but the overall idea is interesting. Lpng range missiles can trade constant damage for faster paced damage, quite interesting and useful in certain situations. Carrying the concept of new launchers even further, what about applying it to short range missiles?
I don't mean rapid rockets though, what about a (cruiser sized of course) rocket launcher that trades RoF and reload for the ability to fire 2 rockets per salvo? The general idea, numbers arbitrary, would be that they sacrifice RoF (10%?) and reload speed (+5sec?) for a slight range increase (10%?) while firing 2 rockets per salvo and gaining a slight increase (10%?) in capacity. Possible applications would be against tackle frigates or drones, trading HAM damage for rocket application against smaller targets.
Balance would be key, like anything, and ideally I would imagine that they would highlight the role of tackle killer within their engagement window. The increased PG would allow a faster initial velocity, which provides a range between rockets and HAMs but closer to rockets so that they will not be capable of replacing HAMs.
I would also imagine that the same would be done for HAMs, a BS sized launcher that fires 2 HAMs at the expense of damage. I'm not entirely sure how the range would work out exactly, but obviously less than HAM range. Possibly the extra PG is used to provide an increase in explosion velocity over normal HAMs. This would be intended to fit between cruise, HAMs, and torps, allowing a BS the option to engage logistics cruisers or Rapiers that stray within their range while adjusting ammo capacity so that they are only better within a limited engagement profile.

Thoughts? (This was longer than I intended but hopefully it gets my point across sufficiently that these would be a niche weapon like rapids. Better in some cases, and worse in many.)

I actually think these are in a pretty good place. Really good damage application, and reaching out to 10km with the close-range frigate-size weapon is really good range. Even frigate-size pulse lasers get around 8k. The damage is a bit low compared to blasters, but for the range and application it's quite good.

I think the flight time on it is okay. Precision's meant to hit ships a size-category or more down from you, and their weapons would be well within that range if they want to shoot at you anyway.