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[ALS Challenge] CCP ATX II Commentators
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Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#21 - 2014-08-21 15:39:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Rayo Atra
I'm glad there are at least a few people who see through this latest bandwagon.

Donate to whatever cause you want, you'll only have more dignity by not getting caught up in nonsense. The amount of capitalization that does not go to the select cause in nearly every example like this far exceeds any difference made in the actual cause at hand.

My local grocery store has buckets for sale right out in front with ALS printed on them. 15% of all sales go to 3 charities, which then take that 15% and give roughly a 1/3 of that money to research, and medical assistance. Who knows where it goes when it reaches the institutions that are supposed to be providing the assistance and doing the research.

The overarching point is that if you wish to be charitable, do some research and find something you feel strongly about and donate or get involved somehow. This flavor of the month nonsense is nearly more of a mockery than anything else.

The second and possibly more damaging outcome of hype based charity, low impact social and environmental issues, ribbons, and other about a million other examples is that it on purpose does not address the systemic root cause of any of the presented issues. Worst of all it perpetuates the long standing idea of "if everyone did their little part" the world would be ok. This is nonsense in a root cause analysis of nearly all social problems.

The most damaging effect of these examples is the millions of individuals that do have the decency to be concerned about a particular issue facing the world or even their community, be it medical, social, environmental (think recycling),etc... Is that these decent people get tricked into going and jumping on a hype bandwagon for 5 minutes, donate $20, and then go away feeling satisfied and charitable, when truly they have simply been disarmed by a system that does not want change.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
lord xavier
Rubbed Out
#22 - 2014-08-21 15:51:33 UTC  |  Edited by: lord xavier
Frostys Virpio wrote:
lord xavier wrote:
A lot of the videos I have seen for this are ********. They don't even talk about how to actually contribute to the cause aside from dumping a bunch of ice water on themselves. I would be happier to see CCP talk about it or do something similiar to the Plex-for-Haiti ****. Just to watch them pour ice water on themselves and not even talk about ALS would be no different then the other HUNDRED celebrities doing this.


And even then, what are the chance that the ATXII crowd does not already know about it? Raising awareness is only a thing if you actually reach out to people who were not aware.
They could know of the challenge but not of what it is actually for. Most of the videos I have seen have literally just been "I am taking the ice bucket challenge!" *pours ice water on themselves followed by some profane language* "Yeah! Support the cause!" /video

It doesnt talk about where you can donate at. Steve-O's video and this thread have been the only two places that actually put up links to what ALS is and links to a donation page. So, yes. I am sure the AT crowd does know of this. How many actually know where they can donate at or even what ALS is?

Edit: I am not saying all videos have been useless. Just the ones I have seen spammed around the internet.
flakeys
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-08-21 15:54:49 UTC
Gotta love our western civilised society , the only thing that can turn a disease into a popularity hype .Roll

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-08-21 16:00:48 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Gotta love our western civilised society , the only thing that can turn a disease into a popularity hype .Roll


What we really need to do is find someone ready to start a campaign like this where people douse them in muddy water to raise awareness toward to poor quality of water in many part of the world and watch as people mud up perfectly clean water to be sure they can ride the bandwagon.
Xavier Holtzman
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#25 - 2014-08-22 01:20:26 UTC
So much butthurt in this thread. Straight

I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it. - Bill Frug
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#26 - 2014-08-22 02:49:22 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Derrick Miles wrote:
GreenSeed wrote:
enough with this silly challenge, want to help? help and be done with it. want to "raise awareness" then talk about it to your family members and friends, or go around the neighborhood putting up flyers. the whole thing is ********. i have to admit its not as stupid as "give this a 'like' to save starving children in some hellhole" but its not far off.

not one person that has donated to this because hes seen the challenges has done so for any other reason than some herd mentality and a sense of guilt. it isn't an awareness campaign it's a guilt trip, just like that koni crap everyone already forgot about.

are they all worthy causes? hell yeah. but this is not a responsible way of going about it. lasting awareness and education can't be passed on by people pouring water on themselves.

Are you nuts? You're discouraging a fundraiser because the motivations of those who donate aren't ideal? There are a million and one things that are horribly screwed up in this world and sometimes all it takes is a little humor and a personal touch to get us to connect with one of them and help out in what little way we can. Of course education and awareness are a crucial part of furthering the cause, but are you really so cynical that you no longer see a good, honest effort to help when it hits you in the face?


Anybody who didn't learn about it by now won't hear about it now because it all propagate on the same god damn social media system. By now, to raise the awareness about it, people really need to get off the internet and spread it elsewhere. If you didn't learn about it, you are not on the internet and won't learn about it just because yet another person doused himself in cold water and posted about it on the internet. That's why this is getting ridiculous. People don't do it to raise awareness while they should understand that by now, you will raise **** all awareness because it's been around too much already.

So your argument against it is that it's already raised so much awareness that it's no longer raising awareness?
Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#27 - 2014-08-22 16:30:41 UTC
I think more to the point is we wait long enough between AT matches, and no one cares. Go participate on your own.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-08-22 17:39:29 UTC
Because just donating for a cause is too mainstream, right?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
luckyccs
That Hole Over There
#29 - 2014-09-03 19:56:14 UTC
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-09-04 06:42:25 UTC
I challenge hipster ***** to stop putting ice on their head

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#31 - 2014-09-04 06:49:57 UTC
1 like = 1 prayer*




(* to James 315 of course, as he is our true Savior of Highsec )

Evil RatKid
Fr3akwave
Mercury Arms Inc.
Ghostbirds
#32 - 2014-09-04 07:58:56 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:

You do know that doing just the donation is a total cop out, right? You're supposed to do both.


Unless you are Sir Patrick Steward and know that from time to time you need to drink something else than just "Tea, Earl Grey, hot:".
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2014-09-04 08:22:34 UTC
ALS with people who live in a land called Iceland? I would rather see more paintballs flying.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-09-04 08:31:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Adrie Atticus
I challenge everyone to stop posting about how much good you're doing and spend that time doing good silently.

Can't you people be nice to other and help people without demanding a headline on the local newspaper about it?
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2014-09-04 10:55:54 UTC
Did you know that only around 26% of the donations to the ALS foundation went into research last year?
Do you want to know more?

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Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#36 - 2014-09-04 11:11:27 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
I challenge everyone to stop posting about how much good you're doing and spend that time doing good silently.

Can't you people be nice to other and help people without demanding a headline on the local newspaper about it?

Yes, telling people to do good things is so terrible.

Instead of being bad and telling people to be silently good, why don't you just silently donate here.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#37 - 2014-09-04 12:03:00 UTC
What if I told you that the good gesture sweeping across America called the “Ice Bucket Challenge” is actually a large ‘Ritual Purification Cleansing’ preparing for the Largest Human Sacrifice in History to usher in the Beast System?

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/08/the-illuminati-fire-ice-challenges-purifying-america-before-the-great-human-sacrifice-video-oyep-shocking-revelation-2474644.html

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