EVE General Discussion

Yes, 100%. Highsec is not a PvP free zone, we already have a lot of PvP through suicide ganking. There is no need to nerf NPC corps, or to buff wardeccing to "bring PvP" to highsec, because it's already here. Now I do feel bad for OP because of his being forced into a hopeless war. But, as I stated before, if you want to live in highsec just go NPC corp or 1-man corp (which is not to "avoid" PvP, because PvP through suicide ganking is still present), and if you want to be in a corp go to low/null.

That's their problem, not mine. Eve is a social game, it's also a multiplayer game. If people want to play it as a single player game that's fine, as long as they accept the consequences of doing so, one of which is that people who do have friends can stomp all over them.

You got this part right, all except the word should. Any benefits, or lack thereof, are entirely down to choices you make, the game doesn't hand them out, you create them for yoursef.

It's a good thing that doesn't happen then. Wardecs restrict the number of combatants, in lowsec anybody can shoot at you.
How would that work when your income is entirely derived from criminal enterprise?

Unnecessary duplication. If you want to create a social group with the same restrictions as an NPC corp you can already so, it's as simple as starting a chat channel and inviting like minded folks into it. You can even have an "NPC corp" within an NPC corp.

For example the Center for Advanced Studies (an NPC corp) has multiple social groups with shared interests.

That's the first sensible thing I've seen you post, congratulations.

I've never said that there was.
Maybe you should go back and read the first post in this thread again. The OP has edited it somewhat to show his change of heart, but he has left his original complaint about wardecs as an example of how not to approach the game. He's also received a lot of help from others because he actually had the balls to admit that he was wrong and to seek help.

That's not advice, that's opinion.
While I'm currently in a 1 man corp, on my (now sold) previous character I've been a member of corps, who were in alliances. The social side isn't to be dismissed lightly, nor is the power of numbers. Even if a corp is primarily industrial it should be able to protect itself, either through 3rd parties or because some of the corp members PvP on other characters.

Corps started by newbies for newbies are another thing entirely, with very few exceptions it's the blind leading the blind.

well this brick wall is still standing.
Everyone's head ok?
pain killers anyone?
water?
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doctor?

True enough, friends however bring benefits, one of which is numbers.

So why didn't you and your corpmates do something about it? Being wardecced doesn't mean you have to be station camped, you have other options, many of which are both fun and educational. Any CEO that tells you to stay docked shouldn't be a CEO.

Players can already provide repercussions against gankers, many choose not to, and the ones that do try are, in the main, hilariously inept.

You specifically asked for the ability to "create a corp with the same NPC restrictions, no wardecs, AWOXing, etc - and same penalties too ". One of those penalties is that you don't get access to a shared hangar. You can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

As for recruitment, the CAS SIGs don't appear to have a problem with numbers.

We tried . After getting stomped for a full week, the aggressors decided they liked the easy kills and decced us again. And again. And again. We decided the best strategy was to bore them. We even flew frigates into lowsec for a roam, just to rub it in. It worked and the decs eventually stopped, but it also bored 2 or 3 players of ours into quitting the game. They just wanted to do their PVE. They had been ganked before and accepted those risks but we couldn't even leave our system most of the time because of the dec. Granted living near Jita while being risk averse was a terrible idea.


Eh, kill rights are iffy. Perma suspect status would cause more aggression. I've seen Vexors sitting on gates before and was hoping to intervene, but no killrights available. Despite having several ganks that week.


NPC corps not having shared hangars is not a penalty. There are no player roles within the corp, hence why there are no hangars. The lack of player roles is not a penalty either; it's a reflection of the public nature of NPC corps.


Thanks for the link earlier btw, didn't even know about this. That should tell you something though. I've been playing EVE for 1.5 years. I've read most articles on the majority of the major news sites and major blogs. From EN24 to TMC, from minerbumping to Jester's Trek.
Where as I knew about RvB and E-Uni within my first weeks due to the recruitment page in-game.

edit - I'm just kidding... I don't actually read EN24.

That's fair enough, I got the impression that you never left the station, and yes being based anywhere near Jita is a terrible idea

A lot of suicide gankers are shoot on sight regardless of suspect flags or killrights due to their security status, and people still don't shoot at them.....

Penalty was possibly the wrong word, lack of benefit is more like it. A shared hangar is a benefit of being in a player corp.

You're welcome, the SIGs in the NPC corps aren't particularly well publicised, or covered by the Eve media. I think that they should get more attention because they tend to be filled with players/alts who have a wealth of experience to share.

His fault for not figuring out HOW to be a trucker in this particular space game.

Look at the underlined part. You came up with 3 excuses in a very few seconds but not a single solution or counter. Can you not see that it is your way of thinking that is the barrier, not some imaginary problem with the game.

If Luke Skywalker thought like you, he's still be on Tatooine making out with his sister (and letting those freaky Droids watch) while his asthmatic dad continued to blow up planets because "I can't fight Vader, the Darkside is WAY unbalanced, can't do nothin till someone fixes that". lol .

I tell you, I'm just amazed with how bad some gamers are with MMO sandbox gaming. I don't know why some would pick it as a pastime if they were gonna quit at the 1st sign of trouble.




Look at these forums. See all the crying, all the "CCP please help me" going on? I've watched 7 years of it and I still don't get it.

I'm not really advocating any changes, I'm pointing out that if a person doesn't like conflict, EVE is a stupid choice. The idea that a war dec can be 'greifing' is what is insane.

I was on an intravenous morphine pump once, it would have been great if I hadn't just come out of general anaesthesia post having an orthopaedic implant screwed into my tibia.

They gave me Entonox (Gas and Air) too, because the Morphine was taking it's time to kick in. 20 minutes later you could have peeled me off the ceiling with a spatula

Ouch...

I have fun getting through airport security, I set the metal detectors off regularly.