Warfare & Tactics

Don't know what the fuss is all about. Most of the time, taking a home system generates a ton of content (Okkamon, Pav/Kinakka, Asakai), and sometimes it doesn't (Heyd, Ladistier). Whatever. We were in "Take Warzone Beast Mode" and accept that one of the consequences was no fights at the end.

The only thing lolworthy here is Squatdog's assessment only because he was spot on in his analysis. The way to beat the blob is to spread out and force fights in many places. The Amarr did this exact thing to the Minmatar when they were down to just Sahtogas and it worked for them. Caldari could have potentially royally griefed us Gallente militia neckbeards if they had employed this strategy BEFORE all the systems were taken. Maybe we would have adjusted, maybe we wouldn't have - we'll never know.

Whatever. Good to see you back. Never thought you'd leave.

I think it's time to add "We didn't want to maintain total warzone control anyways"

Edit: Also, you guys still have us in total time warzone controlled with a score of about 180 days to 4.

Looks like we got lucky and a nullsec group already joined caldari and are trying to revive them. Hopefully they can cap 20-50 systems quickly and revive some of the other Caldari.

But they were fine when you guys held the warzone. Im beginning to notice a pattern!

As for squatdog, i imagine he is just trolling. He wasnt even there for any of the systems that put up a defence. All he did was sit in Ladister for the 13 day campaign keeping it stable as though that was going to stop us.

Okkamon took us nearly a week to capture, numerical superiority swung from fairly even in EU tz, though they often stayed docked due to lack of FC, sometimes we would sit there plexing with 20-25 people in local as they logged in. They would be sat with equal numbers for sometimes 2 hours before making a move. Twice during Okkamon siege there were over 100 squids in 3 separate fleets during US tz compared to our 40-60 number. But ultimately their procrastination in the EU, lack of AU tz and inconsistent US tz cost them the system.

Whereas it wasn't way back when you took the warzone?

To be serious with you BM, we all agree that the lp system is ******. And we've been saying so. But it wasn't lp farmers that plexed your home systems and flipped the bunkers.

Anyway, love the tears of those others that complain about gallente "blobs". Love the claims of "200 Gallente in local" (obviously someone who's overview is so ****** up he can't differentiate between neutrals and Galmil but only sees those that aren't blue or purple to him). Love to see ole' Squat Dog back and posting.

As was just said above, don't worry, you'll have a nullsec alliance join you soon. Eventually your Navy Raven farming hordes will be back and all will be well.

CCP designed FW on way that isk keeps it flip flopping, but then they nerfed farmers on tier1, so best is to farm on one side with high tier.

If you can do easily bigger plexes you can sure do lvl4 fw missions too , so why to plex with tier1 when you can do missions with tier4.

Are you mad about something? is it so hard to admit that once again CCP nerfed victory for gallente, sad thing that they used same method than last time and you do not still get it.

point is that you won war without enemy. ofc some people fight but reason is not always to keep systems, it is just to have fights.

Thats kinda ironic. Most of the gallente give caldari props for their warzone domination back in the day, but by your own standards it was meaningless.

You guys won occupancy during the 1h after downtime with the non random spawns, leaving all plex to spawn randomly for the rest of the day. The defensive advantage this presented to defending any system of your choice was paramount to caldari success back then. I doubt there were more than 3 gallente even trying to fight back given how irrelevant the mechanic was.

Im sure you got fights here and there, but i doubt they had anything at all to do with occupancy since hardly anyone ever fought in plexes. On the other hand, i have more than 2x the kills and 3xthe isk destroyed this month than you have ever had in a single month over the last 8 years. And its nearly all occupancy related. Interesting to know who actually did fight to win the warzone huh?

And with regards station lockouts making FW broken, i was against them too. But there is no denying that it killed ****** station games and forces people to come out and fight wheras before there was no penalty for apathy. Also, low-sec was utterly dead before LP for plex and station lockouts.

Only downside is people might have to travel to find pvp, THE HORROR!!!

Our (fail) leadership at the time did the same thing when you guys took the warzone. They quit at about Aldranette/Esesier and hoped that you'd move on to something else once you took the warzone.

We knew it !! after all these moanings and crying a 0.0 alliance came to rescue our eternal frenemies :)

Welcome in Pasta , and welcome in leading Calmil they had waited for you to save them

(now they won't have to cynobitch to get some 0.0 alliance to come handle their fights for them , that a goo thing for liquid ozone availabilty