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Use a Vexor with Garde sentries to suicide gank industrials in .6
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-09-01 21:48:23 UTC  |  Edited by: NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
With the changes to sentry skills that made their high damage potential attainable in a significantly shorter amount of time, it is now much faster to create an alt easily capable of suicide ganking industrial pilots auto-piloting through .6 sec. Use Vexors with Gardes to cheaply screw with level 4 courier mission runners by blowing them up and ransoming them their cargo, of which they will pay enormous standing penalties for losing and failing to complete their mission.

Sometimes you can get lucky and catch a casual player hauling their entire worth.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41008976/

Easy money, essentially zero risk (if you know what you are doing), and no significant costs or penalties.

Vexor pilots feel free to post your creative or highly profitable solo ganks. You deserve recognition.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2014-09-01 23:18:45 UTC
Your character name is one of the most awesome things ever seen on these forums.

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#3 - 2014-09-02 00:58:06 UTC
I support this thread.

let the tears begin!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#4 - 2014-09-02 02:09:44 UTC
Let's see, no more than 2400 EHP on that fully anti-tanked indy means that all you need to do is hit 185 DPS for the 13 second response time.

That's doable in a T2 Kestrel (194 DPS). Twisted

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Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2014-09-02 02:34:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
RubyPorto wrote:
Let's see, no more than 2400 EHP on that fully anti-tanked indy means that all you need to do is hit 185 DPS for the 13 second response time.

That's doable in a T2 Kestrel (194 DPS). Twisted


Except the gate/station guns will kill the Kestrel before you get off sufficient volleys, I've worked up a Corax I think could do it though. Lol

[Corax, LOL Gank]

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Faint Warp Disruptor I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

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Fix the Prospect!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2014-09-02 02:38:21 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Let's see, no more than 2400 EHP on that fully anti-tanked indy means that all you need to do is hit 185 DPS for the 13 second response time.

That's doable in a T2 Kestrel (194 DPS). Twisted


Except the gate/station guns will kill the Kestrel before you get off sufficient volleys, I've worked up a Corax I think could do it though. Lol


Good point. But going up a hull size just seems like cheating.

How about this all-in-one bumping/ganking fit? Bump it 200km off to avoid gate guns.

[Kestrel, Gank]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
[Empty Rig slot]

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Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2014-09-02 02:41:51 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Let's see, no more than 2400 EHP on that fully anti-tanked indy means that all you need to do is hit 185 DPS for the 13 second response time.

That's doable in a T2 Kestrel (194 DPS). Twisted


Except the gate/station guns will kill the Kestrel before you get off sufficient volleys, I've worked up a Corax I think could do it though. Lol


Good point. But going up a hull size just seems like cheating.

How about this all-in-one bumping/ganking fit? Bump it 200km off to avoid gate guns.


Lol Now were talkin' except it would take quite a while to bump it with a kestrel. That would be quite cost effective though.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#8 - 2014-09-02 02:54:55 UTC
People actually do courier missions?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2014-09-02 02:57:32 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
People actually do courier missions?


Yeah, I see them all the time actually, its a quick way to boost standings.

Not sure why Rod thinks they will pay any ransom for the mission loot though, its not really worth it. Waste of time IMO.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#10 - 2014-09-02 03:43:44 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
People actually do courier missions?


Yeah, I see them all the time actually, its a quick way to boost standings.

Not sure why Rod thinks they will pay any ransom for the mission loot though, its not really worth it. Waste of time IMO.


Maybe the mission loot is especially Fabulous

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2014-09-02 04:49:57 UTC
Welcome to 2012.

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Heinrich Erquilenne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-09-02 13:30:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Heinrich Erquilenne
Ganking with a vexor seems to be quite a bad idea. Last week a guy tried to gank my trading alt in his brand new iteron mark V. He was flying a vexor. It didn't end well. I escaped and ran away before he could do anything. I ended up selling a kill right for a healthy 20M and sent him a nice eve-mail but he didn't answer me. Sad day.

So let me tell you that the issue with slow ships is that you have to fit a long point, which means that your victim only needs one warp core stab to evade your gank. It's more expensive than some cheaper alternatives and reduces your chances of success significantly. Overall it's a bad idea and you should go back to daycare instead of talking about what adults do. Evil
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2014-09-02 13:41:27 UTC
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
Ganking with a vexor seems to be quite a bad idea. Last week a guy tried to gank my trading alt in his brand new iteron mark V. He was flying a vexor. It didn't end well. I escaped and ran away before he could do anything. I ended up selling a kill right for a healthy 20M and sent him a nice eve-mail but he didn't answer me. Sad day.

So let me tell you that the issue with slow ships is that you have to fit a long point, which means that your victim only needs one warp core stab to evade your gank. It's more expensive than some cheaper alternatives and reduces your chances of success significantly. Overall it's a bad idea and you should go back to daycare instead of talking about what adults do. Evil



You are aware that a Vexor, gank fitted, deals over one thousand DPS at 2-3km range, or over 900 with enough tank for station or gate gun fire, for only 30% of the cost of a Talos, right?

There is a reason a good number of the higher skilled New Order pilots use Vexors a good deal now.

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Paranoid Loyd
#14 - 2014-09-02 13:42:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
Ganking with a vexor seems to be quite a bad idea. Last week a guy tried to gank my trading alt in his brand new iteron mark V. He was flying a vexor. It didn't end well. I escaped and ran away before he could do anything. I ended up selling a kill right for a healthy 20M and sent him a nice eve-mail but he didn't answer me. Sad day.

So let me tell you that the issue with slow ships is that you have to fit a long point, which means that your victim only needs one warp core stab to evade your gank. It's more expensive than some cheaper alternatives and reduces your chances of success significantly. Overall it's a bad idea and you should go back to daycare instead of talking about what adults do. Evil

Confirming it is not possible to fit more than one point on a Vexor, it is a terrible ship for ganking and is rarely usedRoll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2014-09-02 13:54:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
It all comes down to the set up.
You need someone to identify valuable targets (haulers with juicy cargo). Best case is when they travel with autopilot of course.
Sentry drones and meta 250 rails with antimatter will do the trick. You will need 2 Vexors in 0.6.
The setup was around 15 million isk each if I recall correctly.
ah, nearly forgot...you need someone to loot as well ;-)

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Heinrich Erquilenne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-09-02 13:59:28 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
Ganking with a vexor seems to be quite a bad idea. Last week a guy tried to gank my trading alt in his brand new iteron mark V. He was flying a vexor. It didn't end well. I escaped and ran away before he could do anything. I ended up selling a kill right for a healthy 20M and sent him a nice eve-mail but he didn't answer me. Sad day.

So let me tell you that the issue with slow ships is that you have to fit a long point, which means that your victim only needs one warp core stab to evade your gank. It's more expensive than some cheaper alternatives and reduces your chances of success significantly. Overall it's a bad idea and you should go back to daycare instead of talking about what adults do. Evil

Confirming it is not possible to fit more than one point on a Vexor, it is a terrible ship for ganking and is rarely usedRoll


If you don't use at least one or two tracking modules then sentries won't hit anything but the elephant in the room. Especially Gardes. Anything with a prop module will kite them effortlessly. You'd have better results with a scramble, an AB and heavy drones.
Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-09-02 14:42:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
Ganking with a vexor seems to be quite a bad idea. Last week a guy tried to gank my trading alt in his brand new iteron mark V. He was flying a vexor. It didn't end well. I escaped and ran away before he could do anything. I ended up selling a kill right for a healthy 20M and sent him a nice eve-mail but he didn't answer me. Sad day.

So let me tell you that the issue with slow ships is that you have to fit a long point, which means that your victim only needs one warp core stab to evade your gank. It's more expensive than some cheaper alternatives and reduces your chances of success significantly. Overall it's a bad idea and you should go back to daycare instead of talking about what adults do. Evil

Confirming it is not possible to fit more than one point on a Vexor, it is a terrible ship for ganking and is rarely usedRoll


If you don't use at least one or two tracking modules then sentries won't hit anything but the elephant in the room. Especially Gardes. Anything with a prop module will kite them effortlessly. You'd have better results with a scramble, an AB and heavy drones.

No, you wouldn't.

Go check Paranoid Loyd's killboard.


EDIT: Whoa Loyd switched to Thorax. Hold on, let me find the guy who ganked me when I was a noob Big smile.
Here we go. https://zkillboard.com/character/91765128/group/28/

Hey guys.
Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2014-09-02 15:43:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
If you don't use at least one or two tracking modules then sentries won't hit anything but the elephant in the room. Especially Gardes. Anything with a prop module will kite them effortlessly. You'd have better results with a scramble, an AB and heavy drones.


We are talking about indy ganking on a gate. When the indy is aligning, it is the elephant in the room. You are not going to be close enough to the target to scramble them and fitting a prop mod is counter productive to the fit. Also, LOL @ kiting indys.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Paranoid Loyd
#19 - 2014-09-02 15:49:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Steppa Musana wrote:
EDIT: Whoa Loyd switched to Thorax. Hold on, let me find the guy who ganked me when I was a noob Big smile.
Here we go. https://zkillboard.com/character/91765128/group/28/


Never used a Vexor, Thorax is more than sufficient in most situations. If I am unsure if the Thorax will kill the target or need more than two disruptors i will step it up to a Brutix.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Satyr Zenith
Inshallah Ganking Technologies L.L.C.
#20 - 2014-09-02 19:08:38 UTC
Bit of a noob question, but is the vexor idea to take down bigger targets? If so, how big could you go on a gate? I'm taking out standard Indys on a gate in .6 in a catalyst with no problems so far. Of course if I can down bigger game I'm interested :) .
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