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Has EVE's overall player base IQ gone down?

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Solecist Project
#101 - 2014-08-30 22:44:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Still waiting for someone with a proper awareness level.





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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#102 - 2014-08-30 22:45:19 UTC
What am I, some kind of forum Sarlacc all of a sudden? 💀
Tassin en Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2014-08-30 22:57:11 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Still waiting for someone with a proper awareness level.
I'm aware that the above comment is a tad condescending.

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Solecist Project
#104 - 2014-08-30 23:19:21 UTC
Tassin en Lone wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Still waiting for someone with a proper awareness level.
I'm aware that the above comment is a tad condescending.
That's not my fault.

That's an issue you have with yourself.


The problem is that people are not aware of this,
which makes them believe that I somehow look down onto them.


That is simply not the case,
no matter if you believe it or not.


It is far more often not the case than most people would believe ...
... or would want to believe.


Okay?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#105 - 2014-08-30 23:22:35 UTC
I think that Eve and it's complexity attracts older, and more patient, people. That means the maturity level is higher, but I don't think that necessarily implies a higher intelligence than other gaming communities.
Whittorical Quandary
Amarrian Infinity
#106 - 2014-08-30 23:28:07 UTC
More complexity with fewer people should make average IQ go up.
If enough people quit the game, the averae IQ should go back to prior levels. If it went even less, everyone would be able to consider themsleves brilliant, as all the people who were considered stupid, had all left and only the elite remain.

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Jon Joringer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2014-08-30 23:37:14 UTC
There do seem to be a lot of people who like to act very immature/childish, though I won't presume to know if they are just acting or really are like that. I've only been playing since '11, so I don't know what the playerbase was generally like, but I will say that I was (and still am) surprised by the number of people who act childish and use text spelling (my thoughts back then, when I started playing, were 'I thought this game's playerbase was supposed to be intelligent').
Calamity Jayne Utama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2014-08-30 23:52:39 UTC
YesUgh
Absolutely Not Analt
Carebears on Fire
#109 - 2014-08-30 23:54:12 UTC
The apparent average IQ of any group of people is inversely proportional to the size of the group. The IQ of the individual members fails to be important once a group reaches a certain critical size, because of a phenomenon known as group think.

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Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2014-08-31 00:16:22 UTC
Note to self: Mention IQ in thread title, watch all the ugliest fish ambush the tasteless bait.
Oh, and Sol, could you not? Pretty sure you're not trolling so it seems your fedora has eaten your brain.
No more books, please, no more.


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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#111 - 2014-08-31 00:26:34 UTC
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
The IQ of the individual members fails to be important once a group reaches a certain critical size, because of a phenomenon known as group think.

Group think can be overcome, though, and it's not even all that difficult if you design for it. It's more likely that clique:ing and newgroup syndrome kicks in in a group of this size and composition.
Solecist Project
#112 - 2014-08-31 00:33:30 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Note to self: Mention IQ in thread title, watch all the ugliest fish ambush the tasteless bait.
Oh, and Sol, could you not? Pretty sure you're not trolling so it seems your fedora has eaten your brain.
No more books, please, no more.
What are you talking about?

I do not cite or talk out of books.

I link to things from the internet to save time ...
... and/or to try to make it easier for people to understand ...
... or try to help myself explain things.

It was Tippia who posted a book.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#113 - 2014-08-31 00:40:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
The IQ of the individual members fails to be important once a group reaches a certain critical size, because of a phenomenon known as group think.

Group think can be overcome, though, and it's not even all that difficult if you design for it. It's more likely that clique:ing and newgroup syndrome kicks in in a group of this size and composition.

Nah, I'm pretty sure it's a strength in some setups.

Have you seen the way we fit our fleet ships, as opposed to say the ratting ships

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#114 - 2014-08-31 00:44:07 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's a strength in some setups.

Have you seen the way we fit our fleet ships, as opposed to say the ratting ships

Weeeell… there's a difference between SOP and best practices on one hand, and actual groupthink. If there are good ideas and bad ideas, and people trend toward the former, that's more a case of people not being stupid just for the sake of it… P
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2014-08-31 01:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Solecist Project wrote:
Still waiting for someone with a proper awareness level.

I already posted on page 1.
Not bothering to get involved in the debate about what constitutes intelligence though. It, like pornography and life itself, is something I can identify when I see it, but not really define it to any satisfactory degree.

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Vyl Vit
#116 - 2014-08-31 06:26:48 UTC
How many fingers am I holding up?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#117 - 2014-08-31 09:40:15 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I read the forums every now and then and all I see is so many players crying about game mechanics. Like ganking haulers and miners, scams in jita, Wardecs being a greifer tool, High sec not safe and more. Thing is, this has been going on all the time, and puzzles me how people can't learn from the past? So is EVE's overall IQ dropping?




Yes, because a very very small fraction of retards posting on the forums is a good sample size of the global EVE playerbase.

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Babylonian Harlot
Bad Girl Posse
#118 - 2014-08-31 11:04:40 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I read the forums every now and then and all I see is so many players crying about game mechanics. Like ganking haulers and miners, scams in jita, Wardecs being a greifer tool, High sec not safe and more. Thing is, this has been going on all the time, and puzzles me how people can't learn from the past? So is EVE's overall IQ dropping?




No, you see so many people replying to these threads. Over and over and over and over. Much like this thread it's the replies that keep it on page one and much like this thread it's alive because it's easier to look down on others.

Most of the EVE Online community are very bright. Smart enough to stay the **** away from GD.
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2014-08-31 12:01:11 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I read the forums every now and then and all I see is so many players crying about game mechanics. Like ganking haulers and miners, scams in jita, Wardecs being a greifer tool, High sec not safe and more. Thing is, this has been going on all the time, and puzzles me how people can't learn from the past? So is EVE's overall IQ dropping?




They are making computers easier and easier for stupid people to use. The effects you are observing are a direct result of this. Personally I think it's very irresponsible of them.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#120 - 2014-08-31 12:08:13 UTC
I was just browsing through my imgur page and found this from quite a while back...just sharing it again since it somehow fits into this thread.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.