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ship for running lvl 4's
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Vince Stewart
Couger Habitat
#1 - 2014-08-30 22:12:00 UTC
I am thinking of changing the ship I run lvl 4 missions in I would like to go with a abaddon any thoughts or fit suggestions would be helpful thanx
Alexstrazaas
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-08-31 00:44:54 UTC
a rohk

cause you can NEVER STOP THE ROHK!!!!!Shocked

with blasters or rails ethier works
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#3 - 2014-08-31 04:30:36 UTC
Abaddon is pretty cool, but at the same time it is an abaddon. with low skills and megabeams it kinda works, but meh. at the same time the apoc and megapulse is pretty decent, but again meh

I'd get a nightmare or something, but hey, if you can't afford one or aren't skilled for one you can make the other ships work pretty well. I mean I guess my question is why the abaddon specifically?

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Gefen Orion
Icebox Industries
#4 - 2014-08-31 04:56:24 UTC
Abaddon is fine if you got the skills for it. However, fine in eve is not exactly efficient. If you let us know your skill sets, the ship your flying right now, which space you're living in, you might get the answer you're looking for.
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#5 - 2014-08-31 05:01:21 UTC
Maga puse and msitis fine git close to cap stable
You can also use t1 ammo no runing out
Difent ammo is good for stuff
Cap busters are good for buldrader missi8ns becouse newts

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#6 - 2014-08-31 18:32:18 UTC
Get the Abaddon and work towards the Pally. The Pally is the ****.

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are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-09-01 05:30:04 UTC
I started out doing lvl 4 missions with the Apocalypse. Lovely ship with capacitor and optimal range.
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#8 - 2014-09-01 06:23:35 UTC
When flying an an abaddon keep in mind it's slow and cap intensive.
voetius
Grundrisse
#9 - 2014-09-01 08:26:29 UTC

I had an Abaddon for ages and they are nice but as people have said above they are skill intensive and damage is a bit meh.

Don't even try to make it cap stable, you'll just ruin it.

High slots : 8 x Megapulse II with Scorch L

Mids : 100MN Afterburner and Heavy Capacitor Booster II with 800s, can't recall what I put in the other slots as fitting is going to be tight.

Lows : LAR II, 3 slot armour tank, and 3 Heatsink II

Drones : couple of flights of Hobs Ii or whatever

Rigs : I had a couple of Abbys and never really found a combination that I liked but T2 Eleutriation are cheap and fit for damage or a bit more tank.

The reason why I got rid of the Abaddon was due to lacklustre dps, even at almost max skills it was in the 800 - 900 DPS range without a set of hardwires, and the Typhoon can do that with T2 Cruise on a lowish skilled character.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#10 - 2014-09-01 12:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
OP should explain why he want to change ship. Cause if it is for higher ISK reason, Abaddon would be a very bad idea: cap booster charges and T2 crystals will eat the profit, lasers will limit damage type (angels will give you hard time, for example).

So if it is all about ISK I can suggest
[Dominix, beams]
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Federation Navy Armor EM Hardener

Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Radio L
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Radio L
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Radio L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I

Curator II x5

which makes over 750 DPS from 106 km optimal range for 0 additional costs (standard crystals do not break, drones can be scoped if getting to armor)

Of cause Rattlesnake will work even better, but it will cost a lot more.

If ISK is not a problem, but the fun is - Machariel is well known fun ship for L4 missions.

So basically IMHO best L4 tool is Rattlesnake for sniper mood and machariel for melee mood. Switch those two and even most repetitive missions will not be so boring ;)

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chaosgrimm
Synth Tech
#11 - 2014-09-01 13:53:09 UTC
I run missions on a regular basis with all types of turrets.

IMO lasors are okay in amarr space and 1300+ dps is amazing v BR / sansha. You blink and the ships are dust. But vs ships that aren't weak v em/therm (esp angels) its passable, but other web systems will perform better. I might suggest an apoc for t1 though if you are newer, just because of the range.

If ur running in caldari or gallente space, hybrids are very nice, and in general there are more factions weak against kinetic primary than any other type. If ur running in cal / gal I'd recommend hybrids, rail megathron for t1 over the abaddon.

Projectiles id avoid unless u are in minmatar space or change ur mission hub often. Lowest dps and 2nd highest tracking. They dont deal kinetic dmg well and as mentioned prior, the majority of factions are weak v kinetic. Also if ur newer and want a long ranged option, arty is subject to overkill and isn't very convenient, gotta keep all ur guns split and stuff. The T1 option you want would be the maelstrom.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-09-01 15:56:20 UTC
Battleships are generally the go to recommendation.
T1, Faction & T2 are all possible choices

AF's, HAC's & T3's also work



What do you enjoy flying ?
What weapon system do you prefer to use ?

Answer those 2 questions .. that should give you a ship to fly.

There is no way to quantify fun/hr in the same way you can with ISK/hr
Eve is a game, play to have fun and you'll stop caring so much about ISK imo
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-09-01 18:03:12 UTC
Sure angels are bad, but guristas are even worse. At least you can use MF on angels.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2014-09-01 19:02:39 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I started out doing lvl 4 missions with the Apocalypse. Lovely ship with capacitor and optimal range.

+1 for one of the nicest looking ships in eve (imo).
I ran a navy apocalypse in gurristas space for like 6 months and found it performed admirably given the skills I had at the time.

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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#15 - 2014-09-01 19:20:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
Abaddon is a fine L4 runner.

Long term I'm guessing you are after a Paladin or Nightmare.

Just jump on battleclinic.com to find a fit.
Nik Hanin
Divergent Booty
#16 - 2014-09-01 20:04:08 UTC
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
Abaddon is a fine L4 runner.

Long term I'm guessing you are after a Paladin or Nightmare.

Just jump on battleclinic.com to find a fit.



Oh my god. You didn't even mention the RS:)
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-09-01 20:40:50 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I started out doing lvl 4 missions with the Apocalypse. Lovely ship with capacitor and optimal range.

+1 for one of the nicest looking ships in eve (imo).
I ran a navy apocalypse in gurristas space for like 6 months and found it performed admirably given the skills I had at the time.


I know right? Nowadays I'm enjoying level 4 missions A LOT by flying around in my Paladin.
Nestene Corsten
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#18 - 2014-09-02 18:36:59 UTC
I prefer the Fleet Typhoon for lv4 missions, it's incredibly fast as a shield tank with mwd, nano fit. I can outrun frigates no problem, burn back to acceleration gates, and it's tracking disruptor immune!...I recently completed the Blockade in 32 mins.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#19 - 2014-09-02 20:22:28 UTC
As said above an abbadon is not great for solo missioning, rather get a navy apoc till you can get a pally or a Nightmare

... What next ??
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#20 - 2014-09-03 01:05:41 UTC
erg cz wrote:
OP should explain why he want to change ship. Cause if it is for higher ISK reason, Abaddon would be a very bad idea: cap booster charges and T2 crystals will eat the profit, lasers will limit damage type (angels will give you hard time, for example).


it is what 1000ish for t2 and 5000 for faction shots from one crystal. if that eats up your profit well Lol

and cap boosters are super cheap, I mean worst case you pay what 5k isk per 800 charge? I think I started with 200 in station and had several story lines and still had most of my cap boosters in that station. so 1mil isk in cap boosters over 60 missions as a pessimistic guess?

damage type is a more reasonable complaint, but luckily you rarely see Angels in Amarr space.

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